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Are MS-13 Gang Members Animals?
5/17/18 | savedbygrace

Posted on 05/17/2018 9:14:15 AM PDT by savedbygrace

President Trump referred to MS-13 gang members as animals yesterday, 5/16/18. The media exploded against him, claiming he was referring to all immigrants as animals. As a complete transcript of the discussion proves, the media are wrong.

But was President Trump correct to call MS-13 members animals?

Well, all human beings are in the Animal Kingdom, so technically, science says we are all animals, even MS-13 members.

But Mr Trump’s reference was not a definition, but rather a connotation, a use of the term that many people understand.

Most animals other than human beings have some common behavior that they are compelled by genetics to practice. They kill. However, with certain exceptions mostly related to self-defense, animals kill to eat. They generally do not kill just to kill. MS-13 members kill just to kill.

Also, animals do not generally torture other animals. And the vast majority of animals do not rape others. MS-13 members torture and rape just to torture and rape. So, technically, President Trump's connotation that MS-13 gang members are animals was not correct. Animals are much more humane that MS-13 gang members.

A more apt description of these savages is barbarous. But most Americans fully understood Mr Trump and agree with the concept he was effectively communicating. The media, on the other hand, are effectively communicating that they are in favor of the barbarism of MS-13 gang members. Maybe they are jealous that these barbarians are largely successful behaving in this uncivilized manner without fear of opposition.


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To: savedbygrace

It’s a common way of speaking. It means that the person is not human and does not follow human standards of behavior.
They are not literally animals. They are figuratively animals. They are subhuman creatures with the external appearances of humans.
They are worse than jihadis. Jihadis kill for their insane religion. MS13 kill with no compassion whatsoever.
The media is disgusting. They are defending murderers. They know exactly what Trump said. They deliberately and intentionally changed the story.


21 posted on 05/17/2018 9:41:00 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Liberalism is the transformation of mankind into cattle. -Nietzche)
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To: savedbygrace

I just took at tour at the DUmp.

They have their panties all in a wad over Trump calling these animals ‘animals’.

Then they go on to call Trump a Nazi, Hitler and worse.

Are liberals that freaking stupid that they fail to see the irony here?

(Rhetorical question. Don’t answer.)


22 posted on 05/17/2018 9:45:48 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd
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To: savedbygrace

Yes. Are any of the questions hard?


23 posted on 05/17/2018 9:50:07 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of arrogance, incompetence, and corruption.)
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To: savedbygrace

Yes. Very low IQ savages.


24 posted on 05/17/2018 9:51:30 AM PDT by CodeToad
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To: Bob434

I agree with you but I was writing for a larger audience.


25 posted on 05/17/2018 9:54:44 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: savedbygrace
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26 posted on 05/17/2018 9:55:34 AM PDT by HotHunt
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To: savedbygrace

Yes, but as you correctly point out all humans are animals, by definition.


27 posted on 05/17/2018 9:57:07 AM PDT by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.")
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To: savedbygrace

Well, I see that many people replying here read the headline but didn’t read what I wrote, or didn’t read with understanding.

Some appear to be arguing with me by making a point that I had already made in the article.

SMH.


28 posted on 05/17/2018 10:02:17 AM PDT by savedbygrace
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To: EinNYC

I’ve shot about a thousand coyotes that I have more respect for than MS-13 members. Therefore I consider them a lower form of life than most animals, more resembling ticks or maggots.


29 posted on 05/17/2018 10:07:06 AM PDT by nobamanomore
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To: EinNYC; NFHale; sheik yerbouty; unkus; SkyPilot; JLAGRAYFOX

Liberals think and support the MSM depiction of Hamas, the Taliban, and ISIS as just misunderstood patriots for the Muslim cause. So we can understand Liberals supporting and importing MS-13 gangs and other miscellaneous drug smugglers.

Until we vote Liberal politicians out of office, this country will be upside down and We The People won’t be safe. Remember that we have got to get the vote out in November for our preservation and safety. Defeat Liberals and RINOs.

MAGA 2018 and 2020


30 posted on 05/17/2018 10:14:30 AM PDT by ExTexasRedhead
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To: savedbygrace

Well 5 of them kidnaped a 19 year old friend of our family in Annapolis MD. Raped her multiple times, tortured her the choaked her to death after several days of abuse.

Call them what you may, but it’s democrsts that are the animals for allowing them here.


31 posted on 05/17/2018 10:22:12 AM PDT by stockpirate (TYRANNY IS THY NAME REBELLION IS OUR ANSWER. HANG THEM ALL!)
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To: Bob434
Bzzzt- man was CREATED after the image of God- Not after the image of animals, or evolved from animals- We are a very distinct creation- Believe what you like, but I am created in the image of my creator- not some animal

If humans aren't animals what are we, then? Fungi? Plants? Bacteria?

32 posted on 05/17/2018 10:22:46 AM PDT by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.")
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To: ExTexasRedhead
Until we vote Liberal politicians out of office, this country will be upside down and We The People won’t be safe. Remember that we have got to get the vote out in November for our preservation and safety. Defeat Liberals and RINOs.

As I understand it, the RINOs who signed that pro-DACA garbage just got reelected. If that's the way it's gonna be, we are basically screwed.

33 posted on 05/17/2018 10:23:10 AM PDT by EinNYC
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To: savedbygrace

Yes, they’re evil possessed animals.

Whenever there’s a known rabid animal in our area, a warning goes out. If we happen to encounter one, we shoot the rabid thing in order to protect people and pets.


34 posted on 05/17/2018 10:24:18 AM PDT by Heart of Georgia (truth will trump their lies)
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To: Sarah Barracuda

What if ms13 is the enforcement squad for the DNC?


35 posted on 05/17/2018 10:24:56 AM PDT by stockpirate (TYRANNY IS THY NAME REBELLION IS OUR ANSWER. HANG THEM ALL!)
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To: savedbygrace

No...they are subhuman debris that needs to be thrown into wood shredders.


36 posted on 05/17/2018 10:37:13 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Simon Green

We are distinct creatures created in the image of God- no other created thing was created in the image of God- man alone was


37 posted on 05/17/2018 10:39:59 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: Bob434
We are distinct creatures created in the image of God- no other created thing was created in the image of God- man alone was

I presume you agree that humans are mammals, yes?

mam·mal
ˈmaməl/
noun
noun: mammal; plural noun: mammals

a warm-blooded vertebrate animal of a class that is distinguished by the possession of hair or fur, the secretion of milk by females for the nourishment of the young, and (typically) the birth of live young.

Why the reticence to acknowledge that humans are animals?

38 posted on 05/17/2018 10:50:53 AM PDT by Simon Green ("Arm your daughter, sir, and pay no attention to petty bureaucrats.")
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To: Howie66

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=ms13+documentaries


39 posted on 05/17/2018 11:02:22 AM PDT by leopud
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To: Simon Green

God didn’t create humans in the image of animals, He created humans in His image- with a soul- something animals lack A soul that is capable of communion with our Creator. While humans and animals share physical characteristics, it is the souls of mankind that separate us from the animal kingdom having been created in the image of
God- animalkind was not created in the image of God

Speaking of the broader image, Abraham Kuyper, Jr., writes:

This image of God cannot be lost since, if man can lose it, he would at the moment of losing it, cease to be a human being. The image of God in the wider sense . . . has reference to the human in man, to that whereby man, in distinction from all other creatures, is man and not an angel or an animal or a plant.24


40 posted on 05/17/2018 11:02:34 AM PDT by Bob434
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