Posted on 05/18/2018 9:00:27 AM PDT by EinNYC
The MTA (Metropolitan Transit Authority) said Thursday that it would allow ads for a sex toy company to appear in the subway one day after the images were deemed too racy for city straphangers.
The reversal came after accusations of unequal treatment when the company that handles MTA ads said the colorful images from luxury sex toy company Unbound violated policies about “indecent material.”
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While I will admit that all the types of events you mention do happen, taking trains into New York and using its subways often enough to know the difference between anecdotal experience and the usual and typical experience I’d say most of your examples are not what most passengers experience most of the time - I certainly do not. That said, do I agree there is plenty of room for improvement on the subways? Sure. As far as the fare, by today’s inflated dollar, the $2.75 fare to go absolutely any distance on the subway is a bargain.
If you use EinNYC’s comments “verbatim”, I hope you will also consider comments from other posts on the thread, like mine and others, that run counter to EinNYC’s depiction of the subways. I think their view is anecdotally true, on occasion, but for the general case it is hyperbole and a negative exaggeration of the what is more likely the average experience.
Because you’re never too young to be sexualized in New York.
Fortunately, I don't have to use the subway with any regularity these days. That said, it is a very rare trip indeed when I do NOT experience what I posted. There are ALWAYS beggars marching up the aisles of the subway car looking for handouts. There are frequently malodorous bums sleeping on a subway car seat and making sitting in that car impossible from the stink. The swingin' breakdancers are very common as well, and you can count on seeing beggars in the tunnels connecting lines. I don't know what lines you take, but I assure you that I see what I reported most of the time.
Will do!
For the record, I never use another’s comments verbatim without asking. And I never give their screen name or the forum (in this case FR).
Unlike you, I do regularly take often enough most of the subway lines, and again my experience is the things you mention do happen, on occasion, but not on most subway trips I have. For me they are things that do exist in the subway system, but not always present all the time.
Authorized perversion.
My experience on the trains for over 35 years now is generally positive. Maybe I’m just lucky. I love the new 2nd Avenue subway line and the new train stations at 86th & 96th. Clean and beautiful. I also walk alot which is healthful and very enjoyable if you like to window shop and people watch.
The subways are a phenomenon. There’s an entire high school dedicated to the transportation system.
I usually stay away from them now that I don’t have to take them to get to work on time, but yesterday I had to, and a big woman using both hands on her cell phone and not holding on to anything almost fell right on top of me. A new hazard.
What will they accept next? NAMBLA ads?
well, I mean, it’s not like it’s a cigarette or anything...
My latest new NYC subway experience was a year or two ago when I took the new extension of the Nbr 7 train, as it goes west/southwest from Times Square down and a little further to the west side, ending in the Jacob Javits Center area (my destination on that trip). What really got me was how insanely deep the line runs at that point. Two extremely many-stories-high banks of multiple escalators move passengers between the train level and the street level, with a giant mezzanine level between them. Of course being built in the last decade and not more than century ago, the station is super modern in every way.
While that is a fact, I remind people that much of the NYC subway system has the historical advantage and modern disadvantage of mostly being built many decades ago. For NYC to tear it all down and rebuild it all “modern” today, would likely bankrupt the city if not the city and state. The most that can be hoped for is incremental improvements.
Actually, having begun experiencing the NYC subways in 1970, I can safely say it has undergone many incremental improvements since then. The war with graffiti has mostly been won for instance and though not “pristine” by any measure it is cleaner than it used to be.
Yes, just like the extension on the Q line is very interesting - you have to take three escalators down to get on a train - as you would do in London. That’s the place to be if there is ever an attack, lol! I haven’t been on the 7 to see what you’re talking about but I imagine it is similar. Graffiti has been gone from the subways for years. It’s a good system. My only problem is the crowding and the poor announcement system that can’t be heard or understood. You’d think they’d fix that!
We’re probably the only fans of the subways of NYC on FR.
The No. 7 at Grand Central...I could almost do the daily times crossword in the time the escalator reached the top.
The underground passage from Grand Central to Times Square was like Dante’s descent into the bowels of hell.
You can’t walk from Times Square to Grand Central underground, Cov! (How are you?! Haven’t seen your name in a while!!!) I know the passage of which you speak - I did it the other day. But the escalators on the Q line are amazing! Come back to NYC just to experience it, lol.
“We’re probably the only fans of the subways of NYC on FR.”
LOL
I would not chose to call myself a “fan”. But I respect what the MTA has managed to do with a system with an infrastructure that is more than a century old, with all the NYC and New York state politics they must maneuver around, with a fare system with rates that satisfy the politicians while remain too law to cover all costs and thus require politically approved taxpayer subsidies. I also respect them for as much of the whole system they have managed to improve since I first experienced it.
A lot of what still ails the MTA are things that ail all infrastructure in NYC - excessive costs due to excesses permitted to the unions, as well as financial and mob-related contractors corruption. Minus all of that that is systemic to all of NYC, I think the MTA would have made even greater improvements than what they did manage to accomplish. For those that think the NYC subways are so bad compared to newer subways systems they’ve seen, they need to remember building new from scratch will always make a more modern anything, and NYC does not have the luxury of doing that.
Yes, we’re a very old city of 8 million people all trying to fit into a train at 7:30am. Try that, suburbs! Or, try the London Tube system which is old too and equally as fraught with trouble. (I love the London Tube!)
“Yes, we’re a very old city of 8 million people all trying to fit into a train at 7:30am.”
In 1970 my most frequent morning subway commute began at 28th Street and Park Avenue on the IRT 4-5-6 trains. That really was a “cattle car” scene and on really old cars.
If you ever visit Japan you’ll find some trains that employ workers at some stations on the platforms during commuter hours actually helping “pack” the customers in before the door on the train closes. The cars are clean, but at commuting time some are packed to the point where you can’t be inhibited about how tightly you are pressed against multiple people. Funny though, I’ve never departed one of those trains and noticed some female slapping the face of some man on the way out the door. LOL I guess if someone tried to “catch a feel” it went unnoticed in the crush or was just as quietly “accepted”.
I’ve heard about the Japanese subways and people employed to push people in.
I’ve never found subway cars dirty. Crowded and at one time filled with graffiti (the 70 and the 80s) but never, ever dirty. New Yorkers, aside from the homeless and Chinatown are pretty clean.
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