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To: Trump20162020

The father is either in shock and should not be giving any interviews, or deeply in denial and still should not be giving any interviews. He needs a lawyer.

I read an article today saying the shooter had spent the last two months trying to get this girl to date him. Her bereaved mother said the girl was never interested in him and tried to tell him many times. Finally, a few days ago, she told him in very clear terms she did not want to be with him. They happened to be surrounded by other students.
A few days following that public humiliation (that he set himself up for) the boy was running through the school corridors shooting people. This girl was the first person he killed. She was in her Art Class.

Did his father have no idea how weak, brittle and fragile his son’s ego was, that he could not handle rejection any better that this? I get it, that the shooter is 18 or 19, legally an adult. But it takes a while for the psyche to deteriorate to such a state. Did no one in the family see anything since he’s been a teenager?
Schizophrenia, if that’s what it is, often settles in during late adolescence. Is there a mother of the shooter in the picture? I have heard no mention of any mother or other family members just yet.


3 posted on 05/19/2018 11:31:30 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: lee martell

How heartbreaking for her family.
Yes, the shooter’s father should STFU. He will probably hear that from a lawyer soon enough.


9 posted on 05/19/2018 11:50:03 PM PDT by GnuThere
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To: lee martell
Even Ralphie doesn't go ballistic after this...and then later, he gets over it.


40 posted on 05/20/2018 4:04:20 AM PDT by equaviator (There's nothing like the universe to bring you down to earth.)
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To: lee martell

This boy was entering adulthood, though, according to what we are told by recent studies, his brain will not be fully mature until somewhere in the early 20a. Before that, judgment can be very flawed. However, the narcissistic personality can be seen during these years and narcissists need to control others above everything else. They crave the spotlight and I believe this kid was just that. Wearing his trench coat every day probably was attention getting for him..Should have been a troubling sign for his parents and others. Political correctness needs to be set aside when it comes to schools. A school is a government property and should be treated with the same security as other government property, because the young human beings in that school have the same problems as does society as a whole. The gun is not to blame. Parents should be the first line of defense in seeing problems in their children but we all know that many, if not most parents leave parenting up to someone else these days and will most likely defend bad behavior in their children. Fathers are absent and that is a REAL problem. Blame the NRA, blame society, blame anyone or anything else other than what is true and you have the American media today. That is why nothing gets better and almost everything gets worse, If you are a parent of a K-12 student, try to get your child out of a government run school, for, aside from school shootings, too many have become institutions of leftist indoctrination anyway. We have reached the crisis point on all counts. This has to stop.


41 posted on 05/20/2018 4:08:09 AM PDT by jazzlite (i)
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To: lee martell

Good post.


42 posted on 05/20/2018 4:25:33 AM PDT by Obadiah
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To: lee martell

That sums it up nicely. Unfortunately, that outburst of teenage angst is going to give the gun grabbers a lot of encouragement.


47 posted on 05/20/2018 4:34:07 AM PDT by NonValueAdded (#DeplorableMe #BitterClinger #HillNO! #cishet #MyPresident #MAGA #Winning #covfefe)
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To: lee martell

“Schizophrenia, if that’s what it is, often settles in during late adolescence.”

Yes, this is true. But is there any reason to think this kid was schizophrenic or otherwise insane? The girl rejected him, he killed her and a bunch of other people, but then his nerves failed him and he did not kill himself as he had planned to do. That’s vicious and evil, but is it indicative of insanity?

Unless you want to say that all mass murderers are insane. But, to me, to say someone is insane means that they are detached from reality in some way. Like when Hinkley shot Reagan in an effort to impress Jody Foster.


53 posted on 05/20/2018 5:01:34 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: lee martell

Is there a mother of the shooter in the picture? I have heard no
mention of any mother or other family members just yet.

**************

Rose Marie Pagourtzis, who also goes by the name Rose Maria Kosmetatos, is
the mother of accused Santa Fe High School school shooter Dimitrios Pagourtzis.

Rosemarie K Pagourtzis is listed in a Texas Tribune salaries database as
“Administrative Associate in Pediatric Endocrinology, a department of The
University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston.” She makes $42,201, and her
race was listed as Hispanic/Latina in that database, although she shared
posts about Greek heritage on Facebook. She was hired in September 2013.

A couple of photos at this location:

https://heavy.com/news/2018/05/rose-maria-pagourtzis-dimitrios-mother-kosmetatos/


69 posted on 05/20/2018 6:37:44 AM PDT by deport
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To: lee martell
When I was young there were rules that excluded nice girls publicly humiliating young boys. Those ‘rules’ don't exist anymore. We've had 22 mass school shooting THIS year... that tells me this is NOT a problem with ‘one child or another’ it's a culture problem. Culture breakdown - it's all connected... from the deep state thuggery to ‘elite’ Hollywood rapists to school shootings to women deciding not to have children down to infected swimming pools...

The well spring IS the insanity... it's NOT 'crazy people'... it's incentives creating 'crazy'... Culture rules of Western Civilization were thrown out for ... nothing. For meaningless nihilism. "Rules' based on the abyss and short term gain.

http://www.fox5ny.com/news/hotel-pools-linked-to-many-disease-outbreaks

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/asia-argento-delivers-searing-speech-at-cannes-festival-was-weinsteins-hunting-ground-1113432

““I was raped by Harvey Weinstein here at Cannes. I was 21 years old. The festival was his hunting ground. I want to make a prediction: Harvey Weinstein will never be welcomed here ever again.



https://gizmodo.com/the-us-had-its-lowest-birth-rate-ever-last-year-1826114341

The US Had Its Lowest Birth Rate Ever Last Year


http://time.com/5282496/santa-fe-high-school-shooting-2018/

The Santa Fe High School Shooting in Texas Was the 22nd School Shooting This Year



83 posted on 05/20/2018 8:32:10 AM PDT by GOPJ ( Sh*tface John Brennan thought taking his CIA oath on the Bible was 'disgusting' - - and refused...)
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