Posted on 06/04/2018 10:42:02 AM PDT by C19fan
If one works harder but accomplishes less, there’s only one reasonable conclusion. That is that there are women accepted into the programs that have less qualifications, aptitudes and/or sincere interest in the topics at hand.
There *must* be some reliable (and obvious) indicator. Forehead sweat, perhaps?
Joe 12 pack isn’t going to pass the class by missing classes unless he does well on the homework and exams. An in the STEM courses, that means the student knows the material; there is no bluffing.
Unless the professor requires attendance and is part of the grade, how the student passes the class is up to the individual student.
By the way, I did read the whole article, I just don’t agree on the premise.
Well there you have it...hard data...irrefutable proof I say. Grant money! Where's my grant money!?!?
I don’t think people should be awarded for being stupid.
This is why civilizations are built by men.
Repeat after me, ladies, "Feelings are not facts."
Golly, brains are required. Who knew? /s
When I started engineering school, I worked my ass off, because that’s what you were “supposed to do”. My grades were mediocre. When I analyzed how I was studying, then made a plan and stuck to it, I set the curve the remaining 3 years. I graduated with a GPA one full point higher than anyone else.
Work smarter, not harder.
Maybe "Joe 12 Pack" is a whole lot smarter than you think he is. Maybe your perception of "Joe 12 Pack" is mistaken. If you had seen me on Friday nights (only) when I was a Physics student, you might have thought I was "Joe 12 Pack". If you had seen me the other six nights of the week, you might have thought I was a teetotaler. Work hard, study hard, party hard.
I think the knowledge and scientific curiosities would be enough to enter into STEM programs. Womyn studies are pretty lame.
Such is life. I witnessed horrible work by females given an A, while I received B on what was clearly better. Then I started looking for it and it appeared common. I didnt see anyone concerned about my efforts being discouraged.
I don’t even buy the narrative of “female students work harder in STEM than males”. It’s at best unwarranted, but most probably a bald face lie.
Not only women underperform in STEM, it’s just that STEM is NOT their stuff, period. Motivation is a huge factor, if you are not interested in something, your “hard work” for grades is unproductive sooner or later. Whether at college or at work, I’ve spent days and nights working on challenging and exhausting projects with male colleagues, men are always willing to invest time, emotion and energy in such things because we sincerely love it whereas I’ve never seen a single female who has such mindset in my whole career as an electronics engineer.
Men and women are just wired differently! No amount of PC talks, social engineering or wishful thinking would change that fact. It would only make both sexes more miserable and frustrated as with all and any attempt of leftists to “improve” things.
We just witnessed the "effort" in a bridge collapse in Florida.
Wouldn’t surprise me. Women do way to much feeling and not enough calculating.
Thanks for the reminder. That little incident sure went into the memory hole.
Ah, so they played the feelings card...
Feelings, nothing more than feelings,
Trying to forget my feelings of love.
Teardrops rolling down on my face,
Trying to forget my feelings of love.
(...) /Morris Albert
Sorry, ladies, not buying it. Try again. And anyway, go make me a sammich. Thanks.
About 15 years ago, a ChE new graduate female was hired into my team. A few months after her on-board, she asked me for assistance with a simple unit conversion sort of like converting metric to USA standard units. I was like holy crap, this is freshman chemistry stuff. Within a year, she was nudged out of the company and “resigned” to take a job in the city engineering department for a medium size city. For a ChE, this is way outside the profession. No way would I hire or recommend an engineer from that major university again. She was qualified to be a lab tech but lacked the creative and functional skills of the profession.
Regarding PE license, I was about 20 years into my career before it would have been of utility and even the it would have largely been for business card cachet. My niche is industrial process design, not detailed engineering and have several hundred million $$$ of designs out in industry. I work extensively with the detailed specialists for narrow, focused input when needed. My work product feeds into the capital authorization process then detailed engineering. Detailed engineering produces the spectrum of construction drawings and specs that require PE stamps. For the downstream DE, often times I am a senior reviewer of the process side piece of the detailed engineer products. I also am often a key person for procurement in preparing some of the bid specs and bid evaluation processes and start-up when everything comes to life.
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