Posted on 06/04/2018 10:42:02 AM PDT by C19fan
Four Otterbein University professors suggest that women may be averse to STEM fields because they feel they work harder than male students without earning higher grades.
After conducting a study of 828 students in STEM classes, the professors discovered that while women felt they put more effort into their classes than men, they received approximately equivalent grades, which “indicates that women's higher perceived effort levels are not rewarded."
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What it indicates is that women think their
efforts are worth more than mens.
Aeons ago, when I was a university Physics student ...
I worked a lot harder than some of my colleagues, but achieved lower grades.
That’s because they were smarter than me.
Duh.
Respectfully, no. What it indicates is that it takes women more effort to produce the same scores men achieve with less effort.
I.e.: on average men have a higher aptitude in the STEM majors.
“indicates that women’s higher perceived effort levels are not rewarded.”
And how do you define “perceived effort levels?” Just because you put more time into it doesn’t mean the product is better than one who has a higher natural ability.
This same thing happened to me in electromagnetics and semiconductor device theory ... I had to work twice as hard as a few others in the class since they were naturally good at that stuff and I wasn’t.
However, in higher level digital design and embedded system classes, I kicked ass while not working as hard while those same people that aced emag and semiconductors struggled.
I guess we were all women and didn’t know it.
Ironically, my first paid job as an engineer was integrated circuit design/layout ... a lot of that semiconductor stuff came in handy of course :-) .
“...indicates that women’s higher perceived effort levels are not rewarded.”
What is rewarded is results.
If a six foot guy works his tail off to be as good a basketball player as a 6’ 6” player, it doesn’t make him better. It makes him the same.
Are they suggesting that a poor politician that works his tail off should be elected against a superior candidate that didn’t have to work near as hard to get his message out? Or a football team should win the game because they got a lot more yards rushing and passing, but fumbles did them in, even though they lost in points?
Results are the goal. Results are what’s rewarded. If you have to work twice as hard as everyone else in your field, maybe you are in the wrong field.
I wonder if the laws of physics, and the principles of engineering that derive from them, will pay any attention.
Orwellian speak this b.
It can go at least two ways, neither of which is favorable to women:
Johnny studies 6 hours and gets a B+ on the big Math test.
Beth studies 18 hours and also gets a B+ on the big Math test (because Beth just isn’t very smart, but she works really hard to achieve equivalency).
Johnny studies 6 hours and gets a B+ on the big Math test.
Beth isn’t really sure how much she studied and isn’t really sure how much Johnny studied, but she only got a B+ on the test and that is just SOOOOO unfair, because she tried really hard and she’s clearly a victim and everyone is out to get her and she clearly deserves an A.
Really, how do we know how much “effort” either
is putting in aside from their perceived ideas?
In my field, the real differences between male and female engineers doesn't show up in engineering school, but in the licensing exams. There are plenty of good civil engineers who happen to be women. But I have come across far too many cases where women are pushed into an engineering curriculum as part of a "diversity" initiative ... only to find themselves in a position 5-10 years later where they are unable to pass the licensing exams.
I'm sure that the female engineers who designed the collapsed bridge in Florida worked hard too.
The families of those who were killed by their incompetence will be relieved to know "They tried really, really hard" to get it right.
I shudder to think of what the world will look like in a generation. The laws of Physics are not, and will never be, politically correct.
I.e.: on average men have a higher aptitude in the STEM majors.
All people do not have the same aptitudes.
Women and men have statistical differences.
The "Laws" of Physics don't give a rat's ass who you are or how hard you worked. They are what they are ... if you don't understand them, or if you apply them incorrectly, they WILL bite you in the ass.
And people may well die as a result.
My son just graduated as an astronautical engineer from a small, private engineering university. There were very few girls in the entire school, let alone his program.
They try hard to recruit them into the higher level STEM stuff, but if they’re not interested, they’re not interested.
Guys tend to gravitate more heavily into those types of fields. That’s not a bad thing.
This civilization is headed for a deep, dark age.
“perceived effort”
perhaps the key words here are “perceived” ?
“”perceived” is not the same as ‘real’
It is “”perceived” by libtards that ‘diversity’ delivers equivalent merit to actual effective merit.
Just because you think you are better and worked upto your limitations does NOT make you BETTER than those with actual higher abilities.
Just more affirmative action trash that made being black a leftist endorsement for obama being president-worthy.
That’s a pretty good analysis. I’m just going by the time I spent as a close associate of the MIT community. The guys were absolute wizbangs—walking, talking geniuses. The gals were what the PC crowd would have called, ‘underrepresented.’ Even of the ones I met, they didn’t compare to the guys.
Male and female brains are just different. There are exceptions in the STEM area, but they are just that—exceptions.
They need to wear a one size smaller lab jacket.
Remember the old Sci-Fi flics from the 50’s? There was always a babe in a lab jacket.
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