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Article II Eligibility Facts
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Posted on 06/10/2018 9:43:49 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin

Upon receiving Jay’s letter, General Washington passed on the recommendation to the convention where it was adopted in the final draft. Thus Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of the U.S. Constitution, the fundamental law of our nation reads:

Article II, Section 1, Clause 5 of U.S. Constitution as adopted 17 September 1787:

No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that Office who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty five Years, and been fourteen Years a Resident within the United States.

There you have the crux of the issue now before the nation and the answer.

Hamilton’s suggested presidential citizenship eligibility requirement was that a Citizen simply had to be ‘born a Citizen’ of the USA, i.e., a Citizen by Birth. But that citizenship status was overwhelmingly rejected by the framers as insufficient. Instead of allowing any person “born a citizen” to be President and Commander of the military, the framers chose to adopt the more stringent requirement recommended by John Jay, i.e., requiring the Citizen to be a “natural born Citizen“, to block any chance of future Presidents owing allegiance to other foreign nations or claims on their allegiance at birth from becoming President and Commander of the Military.. Therefore, the President of the United States must be a “natural born citizen” with unity of citizenship and sole allegiance to the United States at birth.


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To: Lurkinanloomin

SR 511 addressed this and agreed NBC meant born in the USA to two US citizen parents. Hellary and Soetoro were both in the committee and signed off on THE DEFINITION. Funny, SR 511 was to vet McIdiot and there was never a vetting of Soetoro’s eligibility.


21 posted on 06/10/2018 12:23:25 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: morphing libertarian

You are correct, each state can verify eligibility.
They do not have to take Pelosi’s word for it.
They were frightened off by the Alinsky attacks as “birthers” on anyone who wanted the Constitution followed.
Clarence Thomas admitted they were ducking the issue.


22 posted on 06/10/2018 12:27:38 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

democrats are not going to screen a democrat nominee. Not at the state level. Political suicide or in the case of Hillary, actual.


23 posted on 06/10/2018 12:33:18 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: bgill

The Senate Resolution does indeed specify McCain’s TWO citizen parents as the reason he was eligible.
Obama voted for it.

McCain made the perfect Designated Loser for Obama precisely because the questions about his eligibility were used as cover for Obama.
McCain was a sympathetic example because he was foreign born to an Admiral in service to the country.
All the arguing about McCain distracted from Obama’s foreign national father making him a British subject at birth regardless of where he was born.


24 posted on 06/10/2018 12:36:35 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: morphing libertarian

or in the case of Hillary, actual.
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I know you are not kidding, Seth Rich found out the hard way.


25 posted on 06/10/2018 12:38:23 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

I’ve seen the arkancide list


26 posted on 06/10/2018 12:44:58 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

While I was sympathetic to McCain’s birth situation, how can the congress pass a resolution to give an “exception” to something in the constitution?


27 posted on 06/10/2018 12:46:41 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: morphing libertarian

They can’t, but that was part of the theater designed to hide what was in plain sight, Obama was born a British subject and was not naturally an American.


28 posted on 06/10/2018 12:52:10 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

and the courts turned cases down. When the courts refuse their responsibility we have little recourse except violence. Instead we allowed the fraud to go on for 8 years while the country became weaker. Sometimes i wish i had more courage and wasn’t a 7 year old invalid.


29 posted on 06/10/2018 1:01:56 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: morphing libertarian

We the people have no standing according to the courts.


30 posted on 06/10/2018 1:06:44 PM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Lurkinanloomin

I remember that. We are entitled to honest elections. That gives us standing. The fewer options open to us and the more criminal powerful people are protected the more are sown the seeds of revolution.

Courts are a phenomenal thing if you think about it. People can sue someone that has wronged them and get recourse without just killing them outright.


31 posted on 06/10/2018 1:18:18 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: morphing libertarian
I wonder if there is any way to deal with Kamela Harris’ status now instead of after Pelosi certifies her as a legitimate candidate/

Pelosi, that walking corpse, a member of the zombie apocalypse, should not be able even to certify that the sun is shining...

32 posted on 06/10/2018 1:20:10 PM PDT by publius911 ( If we let it, California will lead us all over the cliff.)
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To: publius911

even if she says, “if you like your sun, you can keep your sun...


33 posted on 06/10/2018 1:21:08 PM PDT by publius911 ( If we let it, California will lead us all over the cliff.)
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To: publius911

The RNC should block them at every step, but they are balless.


34 posted on 06/10/2018 1:21:17 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: morphing libertarian
While I was sympathetic to McCain’s birth situation, how can the congress pass a resolution to give an “exception” to something in the constitution?

DISCLAIMER: i hold no admiration for John S. McCain III, so hold no bias in his favour.

That said, existing US Law governing the Panama Canal Zone (McCain was born in an hospital within the Zone that was for the use of US Military and their dependents) made McCain a US Citizen at birth. By 1934 US Law governing the status of persons born within the Canal Zone, McCain was indeed a natural born citizen and therefore eligible to be US President.

The congressional declaration appears to be nothing more than window dressing. McCain was born in 1936 and would have been covered by that law before it was amended in 1937.

35 posted on 06/10/2018 1:53:38 PM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord

thanx. The resolution shows that congress recognizes the NBC eligibility requirement and that they gave Obama a pass.


36 posted on 06/10/2018 1:59:07 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: mlo

Right. And if you disagree, that’s taken as an endorsement of having someone like Obama as president rather than simply interpreting the law.


37 posted on 06/10/2018 2:06:16 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin
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To: Lurkinanloomin

BUMP for later.


38 posted on 06/10/2018 2:15:12 PM PDT by Right_in_Virginia
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To: morphing libertarian

The whole thing needs to be dealt with on a more general basis.

By that i mean that the relevant section in Article II NEVER defined the term “Natural Born Citizen”. i would suppose the intent would have been understood on the basis of English Common Law, as was much of our Constitution. However lack of explicit definition of terms has lead to much trouble.

On that basis, i’m not certain that the courts would be the appropriate place to argue the matter.

The idea that a citizen of this country has no status to file a challenge to eligibility of a Presidential Candidate is irksome to me.


39 posted on 06/10/2018 2:33:25 PM PDT by Calvinist_Dark_Lord ((I have come here to kick @$$ and chew bubblegum...and I'm all outta bubblegum! ~Roddy Piper))
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To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord

it is the USSC job to interpret the constitution is it not. In the case of Obama they shirked their responsibility and unless something changes like Kennedy or RBG leaving they will do so again..


40 posted on 06/10/2018 2:37:55 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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