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University of Chicago eliminates SAT/ACT requirement
Chicago Tribune ^ | 6/14/2018 | Nick Anderson

Posted on 06/14/2018 8:01:34 AM PDT by simpson96

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To: Cowboy Bob

The new qualifier will be to count tattoos.


21 posted on 06/14/2018 8:19:59 AM PDT by reg45 (Barack 0bama: Gone but not forgiven.)
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To: simpson96

Top ten research institution according to who?


22 posted on 06/14/2018 8:20:45 AM PDT by MrEdd (Caveat Emptor)
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To: simpson96

Resume from University of Chicago? We’ll keep it on file. (Circular file, that is.)


23 posted on 06/14/2018 8:26:38 AM PDT by bk1000 (I stand with Trump)
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To: simpson96

My son is getting close to his college years. He is a sophomore but has taken the ACT and SAT already.

This past week, he took an ACT prep class, eight hours a day for five days.

He took past ACT’s everyday plus the training. His score went up six points at the end of the week.

I felt like he had to do the training because kids up East will often take the test 10 or 15 times in their high school career. He has to get good at it just to compete.

Schools like University of Chicago probably have 25% or more of their incoming students get a perfect score on the ACT.

So, in some respects, the test is kind of worthless as kids who make these tests a priority slant the results, but there is no other way to get in the best and brightest.

I doubt they will keep this plan in place for too long!


24 posted on 06/14/2018 8:27:30 AM PDT by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: Let's Roll
Univ of Chicago used to be a prestigious school ...

It still is, and its comparatively high admission/applicant rate is due to the fact that it has a reputation for being a very tough school to graduate from, unlike the others in its class.

SATs are a two-edged sword, having gone through SAT prep with my kids some years ago. The problem with the SAT is that the answers are often ambiguous and the "best" answer is often flat-out wrong.

The grading on the English essay part was based not upon good writing practices of our best writers, but upon whether you followed a rote writing standard for sentence and paragraph construction meaning that everything read like it was written by the local department of motor vehicles

Promotion based upon high SAT scores is a way to guarantee the dominance of high performing mediocrities, meaning that real leadership will come from the so-called second tier universities that have consequently taken prime position.

A Teddy Roosevelt could never get into Harvard today.

25 posted on 06/14/2018 8:29:59 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: Bartholomew Roberts

“I felt like he had to do the training because kids up East will often take the test 10 or 15 times in their high school career. He has to get good at it just to compete.


What do you mean by “up East”?

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26 posted on 06/14/2018 8:30:45 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Leaning Right

It means Qualified for Student loans

Higher ed is in a mad race to see who can degrade the product fastest. I follow this closely and the heat is on big time, this used to be a reputable school, this to me takes the gun and fills it with bullets

Stupid and tacit admission that it is all about the money!


27 posted on 06/14/2018 8:33:01 AM PDT by 100American (Knowledge is knowing how, Wisdom is knowing when)
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To: AndyJackson

“A Teddy Roosevelt could never get into Harvard today. “

Sure he would,he was a Roosevelt.

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28 posted on 06/14/2018 8:33:10 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Mears

He was a republican too.


30 posted on 06/14/2018 8:34:37 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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To: 100American

From my POV you are correct. My profession originally required an AS, now it requires a BS. Fortunately my experience counts, but not always.


31 posted on 06/14/2018 8:35:16 AM PDT by stevio (MAGA)
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To: Altura Ct.
We just keep moving downward....

To the applause of the ill-informed.

From a political perspective (after all, this is U/Chicago) imagine putting sugar in the gas tank one grain at a time. (See tagline.)

32 posted on 06/14/2018 8:35:20 AM PDT by frog in a pot (Obama's "Remaking of America" will continue in the absence of effective political opposition.)
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To: simpson96

They want people like Hogg to attend.


33 posted on 06/14/2018 8:35:46 AM PDT by Reno89519 (No Amnesty! No Catch-and-Release! Just Say No to All Illegal Aliens! Arrest & Deport!)
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To: simpson96

Now even more bozos can go to college. Debt slavery will go even higher.

Eliminating these tests will make admissions even more inscrutable, thus continuing the discrimination against whites and asians.

The only good thing to come out of this is that the College Board will be defunded.


34 posted on 06/14/2018 8:35:57 AM PDT by bkopto
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To: bantam

Today, I would looking at colleges and their programs like they were a Mercedes Benz limo, and gazing at their real numbers...getting kids to useful degrees and getting a job within sixty days of graduation. Any place talking over their ‘party-status’ or bragging about cultural awareness? I’d skip them.


35 posted on 06/14/2018 8:36:17 AM PDT by pepsionice
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To: simpson96

Requiring standardized test scores was a huge part of what made elite institutions strong academically. Harvard & Yale are still taking the best students from Andover and Exeter, but the SAT/ACT allowed them to replace the mediocre prep school kids with genius-level students from all over the country. Ditching standardized test scores means that the A student from Andover still gets in, but the 150 IQ public school white kid from Boise doesn’t because his good grades are indistinguishable from the good grades of the 105 IQ black girl from Chicago. And that’s the whole point.


36 posted on 06/14/2018 8:36:26 AM PDT by irishjuggler
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To: Bartholomew Roberts

The AVERAGE ACT score is a 34. The bottom 25% is 32. Top 75% is a 35.

Test high score is a 36.

Their Acceptance rate is 8%.

It would be interesting to their new evaluation tools!


37 posted on 06/14/2018 8:36:40 AM PDT by Bartholomew Roberts
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To: 100American

> It means Qualified for Student loans <

Interesting take. But since the school admits less than 10% of all applicants, how would eliminating entrance tests increase their revenue? This seems more like a diversity play to me.


38 posted on 06/14/2018 8:37:24 AM PDT by Leaning Right (I have already previewed or do not wish to preview this composition.)
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To: simpson96

Universities adopting the Starbucks model, I don’t think it will end well for them.


39 posted on 06/14/2018 8:38:51 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: blueunicorn6

This is like the banks offering huge loans to folks with terrible credit and/or no current income.

The college bubble.


40 posted on 06/14/2018 8:40:15 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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