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I have found myself in debate with those who hate Trump and the border policy on the children.

My personal view is that these so called "Refugees", and Illegals crossing the border are in violation immigration policy and should be arrested.

I am for sending these family's and children back to where they came from. Yet the Liberal's and Leftists feel we should have Open Borders and anyone come in.

In our own Legal System when a parent or parents are arrested that have underage children, if the child has no where to go, other family. Then that child is put into the State System of a shelter or Foster Care. No one ever talks about this and it happens every day.

So please enlighten me as to exactly where this policy of separating the families started, did it predate Trump or is something that is from his administration. Thanks.

1 posted on 06/16/2018 7:46:07 PM PDT by Captain Peter Blood
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If your Mom & Dad rob a bank and are caught, the children are separated from the criminal parents.

The parents broke the law crossing the border illegally...they are separated.

Should we throw the kids in jail too?

2 posted on 06/16/2018 7:59:05 PM PDT by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's fore sure)
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I hope to hear some answers as well. I saw a NYT article but of course they excused all other administrations as not using this policy even though it was in existence. However, one article spoke of Obama getting an unfavorable ruling from a judge on this issue. I do not believe we are getting the truth, just propaganda.


3 posted on 06/16/2018 8:02:31 PM PDT by outinyellowdogcountry
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What obozo did was separate the children— 600,000 of them and hid them allover the country so they will NEVER be reunited with their parents , where they belong— En MEXICO!!


5 posted on 06/16/2018 8:06:22 PM PDT by raiderboy (Trump has assured us that he will shut down the government to get the WALL in Sept.)
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Just watched a FOX News crawl state directly “President Trump falsely stated democrats caused the separation of families at the border, despite ....” Directly called the president a liar. Who’s writing this stuff?


8 posted on 06/16/2018 8:08:37 PM PDT by Williams (Stop tolerating the intolerant.)
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It’s never been our policy to send children to jail with their parents. When adults accompanying children - adults who may or may not actually be related to the children- are arrested, when has any administration sent the children to jail with the adults? The adults are separated from the children and sent to adult facilities.

Do the libs want North Korean style camps where three or more generations are imprisoned together because of the “crimes” of just one person?


9 posted on 06/16/2018 8:10:22 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
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https://amp.thedailybeast.com/thank-obama-for-trumps-child-detentions-immigrant-advocates-say


10 posted on 06/16/2018 8:10:27 PM PDT by dynoman (Objectivity is the essence of intelligence. - Marilyn vos Savant)
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Right now it’s the best Soros can come up with to obfuscate attention away from the ROGUE DEEP STATE including the MEDIA caught red-handed trying to criminally depose a sitting POTUS.


12 posted on 06/16/2018 8:10:59 PM PDT by Dogbert41 (When the strong man, fully armed, guards his own dwelling, his goods are safe. -Luke 11:21y)
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WASHINGTON POST...March 15,2015 story by Joshua Partlow.... Talked about Obama administration housing illegal Mexican kids for months....DOJ,FBI,and White House were all run by dems at that point..Wash POST was owned and run by liberals....Everyone knew..They didn’t care...There is your proof


15 posted on 06/16/2018 8:13:13 PM PDT by Hambone 1934
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https://www.fairus.org/legislation/reports-and-analysis/history-of-us-immigration-laws

Try this link. Gives a rundown of US
immigration policies.
I’ve read some of it, and
the closest I can get to answering
your inquiry is: Illegal Immigration Reform and Immigrant Responsibility Act (IIRIRA)
Hope this helps.


20 posted on 06/16/2018 8:21:56 PM PDT by Lean-Right (Eat More Moose)
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As far as I can tell, illegal immigrant families have been separated for many years. It's just that some Presidents like G.W. Bush and Obama had problems with it, although the practice was enforced. People are sentenced to prison every day, and are separated from their families and children. No tears for them. They made their choice. These illegal immigrants knowingly violate U.S. Law by entering this country, so they shouldn't be whining about being separated from their families.

Here's an article I found that gives some info on the practice:

Separation of Immigrant Families Was Part of Deportation Under Obama

I know when my father and his family came to the U.S. in 1912 from Holland, and disembarked at Ellis Island, the men/boys were sent to one area, and the women/daughters sent to another area to be evaluated, and medically examined. My father had two brothers, so they all went with their father. That meant my grandmother was separated from the rest of her family until they were all cleared.

21 posted on 06/16/2018 8:22:45 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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This was posted a while ago, but no one seems to have noticed it: The Truth about Separating Kids.

According to this article, children can be separated if there is no family relation to the adults, or of there is reason to believed the children are in danger such as child trafficking. Due to 1997 Flores consent decree, ICE can only hold minor for 20 days, period. Since children can not be legally held as long as adults, they are placed under HHS custody. Unless congress changes the law and there is a challenge that goes through he Federal courts, after 20 days children will have to be taken away form their families no matter what other policies are in place.

22 posted on 06/16/2018 8:22:53 PM PDT by Widget Jr
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Also, back in 2016, the Supreme Court doomed Obama’s immigration policy because the vote was tied 4-4. Under the proposal, adults in the United States illegally could remain if they meet certain residency requirements and have children who are American citizens or lawful permanent residents. It would also expand another program, now in effect, that allows young people to stay in the country if they were brought here under age 16.


24 posted on 06/16/2018 8:27:38 PM PDT by mass55th (Courage is being scared to death - but saddling up anyway...John Wayne)
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Then toss the Kiddies in with the scum if that is what CNN wants.


25 posted on 06/16/2018 8:43:55 PM PDT by jaz.357 (Blithering Intellectual.)
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Yes, escort the illegal alien family unit back across the border from whence they came...problem solved.


26 posted on 06/16/2018 8:44:23 PM PDT by myerson
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The bill that the President signs will stop chain migration of extended family members, end the diversity lottery and get the wall built among other things.

The trolls who argue with fallacies and vulgar insults against President Trump’s decision are in favor of continuing immigration law as passed under the Bush and Obama administrations instead of tightening up against the flood (as the President and some members of Congress are doing). Several have even stated as much in this thread.

They’re open borders Libertarians. They’re globalists. They’re coastal free traitors. They’re Hillary’s voters. They love the incrementalism that brought the flood and hate any incremental move against it.


27 posted on 06/16/2018 8:45:12 PM PDT by familyop ("Welcome to Costco. I love you." - -Costco greeter in the movie, "Idiocracy")
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O’Muslim did it. He is the one who put the kids in the dog kennels. He’s going straight to hell, not passing go, not collecting 200 dollars, just straight to hell.


28 posted on 06/16/2018 8:49:11 PM PDT by TheConservativeParty ( Trump is The Storm)
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Great article on this:

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/illegal-immigration-enforcement-separating-kids-at-border/?


29 posted on 06/16/2018 8:50:14 PM PDT by Pinkbell
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Jeff Sessions and his cabal could tell you. I believe it is a concocted narrative to make republicans look heartless in the fall. Sessions ignores the outrageous crimes of Hillary Clinton and lets Mueller and the FBI ruin lives yet he makes a stand on this? And a LOUD stand, even going so far as to quote scripture to back it up. It’s quite a script. And the media will gladly play their role.

Look for the cries to only get louder. But you’ll probably never get a clear answer to your question.


34 posted on 06/16/2018 9:19:13 PM PDT by bramps (It's the Islam, stupid!)
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New Policy:

1.

1.The United States WILL NO LONGER ACCEPT ANY APPLICATIONS FOR CITIZENSHIP AT THE BORDER. Asylum seekers can file papers at any US Embassy IN THEIR HOME COUNTRY

2. Unaccompanied minors will be put on a bus and sent back to their home cities. Parents will be billed for the ticket.

Problem solved.

40 posted on 06/16/2018 9:46:37 PM PDT by GOPJ (Obama said clingers. Hillary vomited deplorable. FBI used lazy POS. Trump calls us Americans.)
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The Truth about Separating Kids
42 posted on 06/16/2018 10:24:28 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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