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I met her mom once.

RIP Jahi.

1 posted on 06/29/2018 1:05:26 AM PDT by Morgana
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To: BykrBayb; little jeremiah

Terris list ping

Jahi McMath RIP


2 posted on 06/29/2018 1:06:39 AM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

Many of us would not be here except for having “unreasonable” mom’s like Jahi’s. There’s no doubt that I would not.

Reasonableness is a lot to ask of a parent faced with losing a child.

God bless this family.


3 posted on 06/29/2018 1:32:17 AM PDT by JustaTech (A mind is a terrible thing)
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To: Morgana

can’t imagine the Hell that Mother has gone through. Prayers for her and the rest of the family.


4 posted on 06/29/2018 1:43:13 AM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: Morgana

RIP.


10 posted on 06/29/2018 2:40:14 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj ("It's Slappin' Time !")
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To: Morgana

I remember following this for awhile. I couldn’t get over the fact a young girl went brain dead from a tonsillectomy. Her mom never gave up. I remember hoping for a miracle but since that could not be thankfully she is at total rest now.


11 posted on 06/29/2018 2:44:18 AM PDT by kelly4c
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To: Morgana

She died 4.5 years ago. It is a disgrace what they did to the poor girl. R.I.P.


17 posted on 06/29/2018 3:43:31 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Morgana
Operating on a dead person....How sick is that.

Now...let's go back....wasn't excessive bleeding what she died of in the first place.

Get a clue docs...something was wrong with her system...

20 posted on 06/29/2018 4:19:32 AM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Morgana

McMath was declared dead in December 2013 when she was 13 after suffering irreversible brain damage during routine surgery in California to remove her tonsils and a coroner signed a death certificate.

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I’ve seen a comment saying it was more than a simple tonsil removal. I wonder if that’s true.


24 posted on 06/29/2018 4:55:04 AM PDT by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: Morgana
I can sympathize with parents in cases like this but it seems much crueler to keep someone in such a state for so long-there's cases where there's a modicum of actual hope and there's cases where there is zero hope. Stopping such situations is why many of us have living wills and trust a loved one to make the right decision.

Too many cases where "medical science" wants to terminate a life for convenience and cost but this seems to be a case of keeping the soul hostage for earthly concerns.

26 posted on 06/29/2018 5:05:49 AM PDT by trebb (Too many "Conservatives" who think their opinions outweigh reality these days...)
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To: Morgana

The real tragedy is that the hospitalists etc did not react to the bleeding once it was discovered. Both my granddaughters had tonsillectomies- one a few years back at age 3, the other last year at age 5, the first one had a knife blade surgery, lots of pain and discomfort, the second had coblation ( radio frequency)- not a drop of blood, two or three days of discomfort and no issues. Big difference in risk.


39 posted on 06/29/2018 6:40:10 AM PDT by Manly Warrior (US ARMY (Ret), "No Free Lunches for the Dogs of War")
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To: Morgana; Darksheare; Vermont Lt; BykrBayb; little jeremiah
Removing a ventilator is not euthanasia. Removing nutrition/hydration is.

I'm not sure I can articulate the difference --- anyone who can, should jump in and explain better.

I'll try. It's because every person alive needs food and water "with assistance" so to speak, whether that assistance means, cooking, suckling an infant, spoon-feeding, straw-feeding, tube-feeding, hydration via IV. Another way to put it is, all food is both an absolute survival requirement and a "human solidarity activity" and all intentional cessation of food/fluids will cause death by starvation/dehydration.

That's why denying food with the intention of causing or speeding-up death, is wrong. Even for a dying or severely disabled person, food is not "treatment", even if it's by tube. It's "ordinary care."

(Only exception of a dying person simply can't tolerate food/fluids anymore.) OTOH, even though respiration is also essential for survival, it is not inherently an "assisted activity." If a person can't breathe on their own, a ventilator is always a special intervention. If the person is in such a state that it's futile, removing it is not murder.

It could get more dicey in individual cases, but I think there really is a distinction between "assisted feeding" and "assisted breathing."

Does that make sense?

45 posted on 06/29/2018 7:03:37 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Stone cold sober, as a matter of fact.)
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To: Morgana

Very sad.


65 posted on 06/29/2018 9:54:10 AM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Morgana

Prayers to the McMath family and RIP to Jahi...


80 posted on 06/29/2018 10:39:41 AM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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To: Morgana

Just saw this news appear on Bing’s news. The news appears when Bing first comes up.
It’s 7:50 PM. My net’s down. Trying again.


97 posted on 06/29/2018 5:53:56 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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