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Trained to Kill: The Inside Story of CIA Plots against Castro, Kennedy, and Che (Book Review)
https://www.amazon.com/Trained-Kill-Inside-against-Kennedy/dp/1510713565 ^ | April 18, 2017 | Antonio Veciano & Carlos Harrison

Posted on 07/02/2018 8:07:33 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

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To: fireman15

Which begs the question- Why don’t they release what remains of the JFK files?

At 89, Veciana doesn’t have much time left. It’s great that he finally is sharing his fascinating and dangerous life story. He orchestrated multiple assassination attempts on Castro and his minions. Veciana -himself survived an ambush while driving in Miami in 1979, surviving a shot to his head.

https://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-reviews/antonio-veciana-with-carlos-harrison-trained-to-kill-2


21 posted on 07/02/2018 10:49:46 AM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Little Pig

“...Che Guevara’s murder...
They say this like it’s a bad thing.”

Guevara wasn’t murdered. He was legally executed at the order of the president of Bolivia, in part to spite LBJ, who had called him to request that Guevara be spared.

Crap like this makes me very suspicious of an author.


22 posted on 07/02/2018 11:01:08 AM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: marktwain

yep

My (late) father always thought Johnson had a hand in this. There must be quite the interesting info for the President not to reveal more about it.


23 posted on 07/02/2018 11:04:38 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

“Our very own... See- Eye- Aye!”

The problem with that is that the CIA are incompetent.

PeeWee Herman and two Israeli girl scouts with a bag of rubber bands could ruinate the whole agency.

Whenever I think of the CIA, I am always reminded of the biker gang in “Every Which Way but Loose” and “Any Which Way You Can.”


24 posted on 07/02/2018 11:10:48 AM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: Big Red Badger

Antonio Vincineo,,,,


25 posted on 07/02/2018 11:12:20 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY)
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To: woodbutcher1963

LBJ was Part...
J.Edgar made it Work.


26 posted on 07/02/2018 11:15:16 AM PDT by Big Red Badger (UNSCANABLE in an IDIOCRACY)
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To: dsc

CIA man recounts Che Guevara’s death
By Will Grant
BBC News, Miami

Hero. Rebel. Revolutionary. These are words one often hears in association with Ernesto Che Guevara.
Felix Rodriguez poses with Che shortly before Che was killed

But they are not words you will often hear in Miami where many people see Che Guevara as a brutal guerrilla who brought Cuba nothing but misery with his communist ideals.

One of those anti-Che voices in Miami belongs to Felix Rodriguez, a Cuban-born former CIA agent who was part of the mission of CIA operatives and Bolivian army forces that captured and killed Che Guevara in October 1967.

Forty years on, how does he feel about the role he played in ending the life of one of the most iconic Latin American leaders of the 20th Century?

I visited the ex-CIA man at his Miami home. He was wearing a shirt emblazoned with the logo of the 2506 Association of the Veterans of the Bay of Pigs, another of his earlier military incursions against the Cuban government.

Mr Rodriguez was present at some of the most notorious events of US anti-communist involvement in Latin America during the Cold War, including training the Nicaraguan Contras and advising the Argentine military government during the 1980s. It is a history of which Mr Rodriguez is fiercely proud.

Felix Rodriguez relayed the order to shoot Che Guevara. His air-conditioned den is full of framed photographs and memorabilia of his CIA past: Felix Rodriguez and George Bush Senior talking in the White House, a CIA medal for exceptional service, a blood-soaked North Vietnamese flag.

But it was his short time in Bolivia with Che Guevara that interested me. Sitting by his pool, Felix Rodriguez showed me his Che scrapbook.

Inside were the yellowing and fragile pages of his log-book from October 1967: the expenses of every day meticulously recorded, each one within the $14 daily allowance from the CIA; a page from Che’s code book, supposedly designed by the Chinese government, with a fresh code for each different message

There were also more macabre items: photographs of the dead Che, laid out on a table for the world’s press to see; the tobacco from Che’s final pipe; a photo of Che’s severed hands, which were cut from his body and put in formaldehyde to preserve his fingerprints, in case Fidel Castro tried to claim that the corpse was not Che’s.

And the most important item: a photograph of a captured, injured and bedraggled Che Guevara, standing next to the soldiers who had caught him and the 27-year-old Felix Rodriguez, who had interrogated him. “Wasn’t that humiliating for Che?”

“No, I don’t think so. Actually, I think he felt when the picture was taken that his life was going to be spared. I think he felt that he wasn’t going to be shot,” Mr Rodriguez said. According to Mr Rodriguez’s version of events, the atmosphere was so friendly that Che willingly agreed to the photograph and even laughed when Rodriguez said: “Watch the birdie, Comandante”.

Che Guevara came to Bolivia after trying to foment revolution in Africa. An hour or so after the photo was taken, Che was killed.

Felix Rodriguez received the order from the Bolivian military high command. There was a simple code: 500 meant Che Guevara, 600 dead, 700 alive. 500 - 600 was the command. Mr Rodriguez wanted confirmation on the crackly radio line. It was repeated: 500 - 600.

Mr Rodriguez broke the news to Che that there was to be no trial. “Che turned white... before saying: ‘It’s better this way, I should have died in combat.’”

Man v legend: Mr Rodriguez ordered the soldier who pulled the trigger to aim carefully, to remain consistent with the Bolivian government’s story that Che had been killed in action during a clash with the Bolivian army. But wasn’t Che entitled to a fair trial rather than such an ignominious death in La Higuera?

>>>>>”I could have tried to falsify the command to the troops, and got Che to Panama as the US government said they had wanted,” said Mr Rodriguez. But he said it was a decision by the Bolivian presidency, and he had to let history run its course.<<<<

By killing Che Guevara the man, didn’t Mr Rodriguez think he had simply helped create something much more powerful - Che Guevara the legend? “That was done by the Cuban government...

Most people don’t know the real Che Guevara - the Che Guevara who wrote that he was thirsty for blood, the Che who assassinated thousands of people without any regard for any real legal process.”

After Che was killed, there was some argument over who should have his pipe. The iconic pipe belonging to the most famous guerrilla in the world. What young soldier there on that day wouldn’t want it? Felix Rodriguez says it was in his possession but, after being asked several times, he gave it to the soldier who had shot Che so that he would “remember his deed”.

So did Mr Rodriguez have any regrets about what happened in 1967, I asked him.

Yes, he smiled. “I would have kept that pipe.”


27 posted on 07/02/2018 12:16:36 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Che wasn’t murdered. He was hunted down and killed like the rabid animal he was.

L


28 posted on 07/02/2018 12:20:47 PM PDT by Lurker (President Trump isn't our last chance. President Trump is THEIR last chance.)
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To: dsc

In the early 1960s, Antonio Veciana was the CIA’s man in Havana holding a senior position in the Cuban government . He wreaked havoc on Fidel Castro’s Communist regime, firebombing the capital’s largest department store and plotting to kill Castro.

After being forced into exile, Veciana didn’t quit. From 1960 -1970s, he funneled CIA funds to a network of Miami-based counter-revolutionaries who carried out an armed revolt against the Cuban government.

Declassified CIA cables confirm Veciana’s working relationship with the agency and even his code name, AMSHALE-1.

Veciana had twin careers: accounting and spying. In 1960, Veciana joined Castro’s new socialist government to subvert it from within. He stole official funds while working for Finance Minister Che Guevara and used the money to fund attacks on government offices, security outposts, factories and warehouses.


29 posted on 07/02/2018 12:31:55 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

Che’s MURDER? Killing the man was justifiable he was an enemy of freedom and actively planting seeds of communist revolution.


30 posted on 07/02/2018 12:33:37 PM PDT by morphing libertarian ( Build Kate's Wall)
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To: morphing libertarian; Lurker

Read post #27 on Che’s death.

Che was executed in Bolivia without trial based upon the order of the Bolivian president delivered to the military command working with CIA operatives.
Pres. Johnson had wanted Che delivered to Panama. Code 500 and 600.= DEAD Che! Fortunately, CIA REAL PATRIOT MEN were at the event and they disregarded Lyndon’s wishes and obeyed the Bolivian order! Thank God!

Che Guevara had written of his thirst for blood and had assassinated thousands of people without due process. They killed him quite nicely-humanely, given his brutal history.

The legendary T-shirt ‘Che’ is Castro’s cleverly crafted psy-op revolutionary hero: a handsome young Argentine. Fake!


31 posted on 07/02/2018 12:57:30 PM PDT by Beautiful_Gracious_Skies
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To: Beautiful_Gracious_Skies

That’s consistent with my post.


32 posted on 07/02/2018 1:54:22 PM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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To: marktwain

And... he was evil, whether complicit here or not.


33 posted on 07/02/2018 4:33:55 PM PDT by YogicCowboy ("I am not entirely on anyone's side, because no one is entirely on mine." - J. R. R. Tolkien)
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