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Mom who lost entire family in wrong-way crash wants cops to press criminal charges
New York Post ^ | July 27, 2018 | Chris Perez

Posted on 07/28/2018 11:54:17 AM PDT by grundle

Edited on 07/28/2018 4:38:42 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

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To: metmom

agreed the carnage inside the car must have been really bad.terrible for the mother.


81 posted on 07/28/2018 3:05:02 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Alberta's Child
In one of the news articles in the days following the accident, the pickup (who left the southbound lanes) hit the rear of car #1 (northbound) in the rear quarter panel, then was sideways across both northbound lanes and the van (with 6 passengers) t-boned the pickup.

The mother (lone survivor) front seat passenger, was wearing a seat belt. I've heard she was asleep at the time of the accident. I think she had a broken leg, broken arm and broken ribs.

82 posted on 07/28/2018 3:15:08 PM PDT by Abby4116
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To: Abby4116

Del 1 is not a bad road, limited access, but no median barriers. And particularly in the northbound lanes) often excessive speed (personal observation only - I used to drive this road often).

They would have done a blood alcohol when the truck driver was taken to the hospital so I think we can assume he wasn’t alcohol impaired. I would think drug testing should be back by now (3+ weeks).

Notice the front of the pickup is not damaged - it was not what we usually call a “head on collision.

I’m not trying to assign blame but am willing to wait until the state finishes its investigation.


83 posted on 07/28/2018 3:33:52 PM PDT by Abby4116
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To: Fred Hayek
Truck retreads, otherwise known as “road gators”, can do a lot of damage. I hit one, and I was lucky it only knocked loose the front plastic splashguard underneath my vehicle. Road gators can do serious suspension and steering gear damage that can adversely affect the handling of a vehicle.

One took the head off of a motorcyclist in Orlando a while back.

84 posted on 07/28/2018 3:40:13 PM PDT by VeniVidiVici (All Democrats have to offer is violence, intolerance, divisiveness and hatred.)
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To: dragnet2; PAR35; Alberta's Child

Have you ever had a tire on an 18 wheeler blow next to you on the highway? Sounds like a bomb.

Not everyone on the road is as perfect as you.


85 posted on 07/28/2018 3:52:20 PM PDT by raybbr (That progressive bumper sticker on your car might just as wll say, "Yes, I'm THAT stupid!")
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To: dragnet2
"That's too easy. I've seen 16' foot ladders, washing machines, bumpers, wheels and 60lb pieces of truck retreads and vehicles spinning on their roofs on the freeways. Did I hit them? Hell no".

I'm really glad you are such a great driver. SOMETIMES you can't avoid an issue. My son was driving on the freeway and saw a truck that had ice flying off the roof. He slowed down to be clear of him and moved 2 lanes away and continued to watch what was happening.

He was in the flow of traffic and couldn't move or stop when a huge sheet of ice flew off the truck and completely smashed his windshield. All he could do was control the car (with his wife and kids in it) and work to get off the freeway.

86 posted on 07/28/2018 3:53:13 PM PDT by Grammy (Save the earth... it's the only planet with chocolate.)
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To: Grammy

People that drive with ice on the roof should be pulled over——they are idiots!!!!!!!

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87 posted on 07/28/2018 3:54:50 PM PDT by Mears
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To: PAR35

<>It takes longer to build a criminal case when the facts don’t merit a prosecution.<>

We have an Inspector Clouseau Award winner!


88 posted on 07/28/2018 3:57:11 PM PDT by Jacquerie (ArticleVBlog.com)
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To: Abby4116

A drug and alcohol test is automatically required per DOT regs any time there is a collision involving a driver with a CDL.


89 posted on 07/28/2018 4:32:55 PM PDT by Fred Hayek (The Democratic Party is now the operational arm of the CPUSA)
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To: Dalberg-Acton
"I don’t see why it would take that long unless checks need to clear the bank."

I was doing about 60mph rounding a curve on a highway with two lanes in each direction and no barricade between them. I was driving in the fast lane.

Suddenly in front of me appeared one of those rubber traffic cones lying on its side. I prepared to brake and run over the cone as there wasn't sufficient time to ensure that the other lane was clear.

I hit the cone and it bounced up under my car and, surprisingly, killed the engine. I quickly lost power steering and power brakes. I struggled to control the car while placing in it neutral and restarted the engine. I have no idea what nearby drivers might have thought was going on.

An inspection of the car showed no signs of damage and no explanation for the engine dying.

It was many months later when the mystery was solved.

The manufacturer of my Jeep had installed an ignition switch which required hardly any force at all to turn the key to the off position. I had a steel ring holding multiple keys along with my ignition key.

When I spotted the cone in the road I moved my foot from the accelerator to the brake which allowed my knee to hit the key ring and momentarily switch off the ignition, killing the engine.

The switch has since been replaced by the manufacturer to one which almost requires a wrench to turn it off.

If I had failed to control the vehicle and killed a family of five in a head-on collision I might well have spent time in prison for negligent homocide.

The moral of the story is that "stuff happens".

90 posted on 07/28/2018 4:36:08 PM PDT by William Tell
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To: Alberta's Child
Wow...I never claimed, suggested or implied hitting debris is a criminal offense...It's amazing, sometimes I wonder where these comments come from...Out of the blue!☺
91 posted on 07/28/2018 8:40:55 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Zhang Fei

You got it. That and traveling over what is safe for road conditions at the time. Those who follow too close to the vehicle directly in front of them and or travel too fast for conditions are the one’s who’ll hit the debris 9 times out of 10.


92 posted on 07/28/2018 8:45:43 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Grammy
SOMETIMES you can't avoid an issue. My son was driving on the freeway and saw a truck that had ice flying off the roof. He slowed down to be clear of him and moved 2 lanes away and continued to watch what was happening. He was in the flow of traffic and couldn't move or stop when a huge sheet of ice flew off the truck and completely smashed his windshield.

I never suggested or implied a person could avoid every event that occurs, on or off the road.

Btw, you say your son was in the "Flow of traffic and couldn't move"? Why not? And why not simply slow down and back way off? If he had time to slow down, move over two lanes and continue to watch, why would he not simply start slowing down incrementally but immediately in the lane he's already in?

93 posted on 07/28/2018 9:30:07 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Grammy

Btw, I ask the questions because your son could have been killed. And he wouldn’t have been the first one who was killed by ice blocks, debris etc, coming through the windshield. He’s very lucky.


94 posted on 07/28/2018 9:34:20 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: grundle
crossed the grassy center median from the southbound lane into the northbound lane around 3:45 p.m., cops said.

I'd like to see how wide the grass medium is in the area of the collision.

Could be a drunk, a medical problem, blown tire, mechanical issue, distracted then over corrected causing the vehicle to lose control. Even cases of wasps flying into the interior of vehicles has caused significant carnage and death..Fell asleep.. Or maybe he just wan't paying attention to the direction his vehicle was traveling. Cell phone, etc...

95 posted on 07/28/2018 10:00:52 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Alberta's Child

How about about people jumping from over passes? There are a million scenarios.

Off subject, but like this scenario..Those big overhead signs for off ramps and interchanges, they have catwalks up there so they can maintain the lighting, install cameras etc. In LA lots of them have bullet holes in them too. Anyway, about 3 years ago this guy was passing vehicles on the 5 freeway shoulder. He lost control and after impacting one vehicle, he then violently rolled his vehicle multiple times, with enough force to eject the driver straight straight up about 25 feet, onto one of those catwalks. Fire dept brought down the body. Should have wore his seat-belt.. He got launched.


96 posted on 07/28/2018 10:56:01 PM PDT by dragnet2 (Diversion and evasion are tools of deceit)
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To: Drew68
It took me all of about 1.5 seconds to google his name and see that Hubbard is a white guy.

OK, unprotected. Got it.

97 posted on 07/29/2018 10:23:40 AM PDT by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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