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To: Heartlander; Moonman62

“The premise of theistic evolution is incoherent.”

Nice try at special pleading.

Over a thousand years before Darwin, Augustine of Hippo wrote that God embedded “seeds” in Creation that would emerge at a later time. I think he used the image of an acorn developing into an oak tree, something that he might have borrowed from Aristotle.

Theistic evolution as per Augustine means change resulting from embedded design. Darwin is change resulting from mere chance. Evolution is a suitable word in both uses since the word was in use long before Darwin and simply means change over time and says nothing about the underlying mechanism.


25 posted on 08/09/2018 12:45:31 PM PDT by Pelham (California, Mexico's socialist colony)
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To: Pelham
Hmmm... that's not how it's taught:

Darwin showed that material causes are a sufficient explanation not only for physical phenomena, as Descartes and Newton had shown, but also for biological phenomena with all their seeming evidence of design and purpose. By coupling undirected, purposeless variation to the blind, uncaring process of natural selection, Darwin made theological or spiritual explanations of the life processes superfluous.
-Douglas Futuyma's Evolutionary Biology p. 5

26 posted on 08/09/2018 12:52:14 PM PDT by Heartlander (Prediction: Increasingly, logic will be seen as a covert form of theism. - Denyse O'Leary)
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To: Pelham; redleghunter; Springfield Reformer; kinsman redeemer; BlueDragon; metmom; boatbums; ...
Over a thousand years before Darwin, Augustine of Hippo wrote that God embedded “seeds” in Creation that would emerge at a later time. I think he used the image of an acorn developing into an oak tree, something that he might have borrowed from Aristotle.

No wonder he was a Catholic.Under that premise all the beliefs and that were not manifest in the most ancient and wholly inspired record of the NT church can be justified like as a bear becoming a whale. reliable su

49 posted on 08/11/2018 5:07:51 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Trust the risen Lord Jesus to save you as a damned and destitute sinner + be baptized + follow Him)
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