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1 posted on 08/16/2018 4:49:07 PM PDT by conservativehusker
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Solar Subsidies Scam Taxpayers And Homeowners
https://www.investors.com/politics/policy-analysis/solar-installation-subsidies-hurt-taxpayers-homeowners-utilities/

Hopefully it will end this year!


2 posted on 08/16/2018 4:53:43 PM PDT by Bulwinkle (Alec, a.k.a. Daffy Duck)
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A good conservative would know these things only survive because of market distortions by lefties (endless subsidies, government-mandated “Renewable Energy Standards,” and tax benefits flowing to the few friends m the many. You should immediately stop even thinking about solar. If you do it, turn in your FR membership card and join DU.


4 posted on 08/16/2018 5:18:07 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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https://netwallcraft.com/sunshine-us-map-interactive-solar-1/national-photovoltaic-map-high-resolution-sunshine-us-map-interactive-solar-1/.

The map shows how little solar energy hits most of the US. It also shows the gullibility of the economic illiterates in the northeast who have destroyed their roofs with solar panels.


5 posted on 08/16/2018 5:18:38 PM PDT by cyclotic ( WeÂ’re the first ones taxed, the last ones considered and the first ones punished)
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there are fields of panels up here that sit covered in snow most of the winter, also we just had a 6 week stretch of rain nearly every day. PV up here is a joke but the greenies are hell bent in de-stabilizing the grid.


6 posted on 08/16/2018 5:20:49 PM PDT by VTenigma (The Democrat party is the party of the mathematically challenged)
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If Solar Panels Are So Clean, Why Do They Produce So Much Toxic Waste?
7 posted on 08/16/2018 5:21:28 PM PDT by airborne (I don't always scream at the TV but when I do it's hockey season!)
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Get you a couple of acres and join the effort

Two Framingham companies, SolarFlair Energy, Inc. and Framingham
Salvage Co. teamed up to build an 800KW Solar Farm in Framingham, MA.

11 posted on 08/16/2018 5:31:38 PM PDT by deport
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As long as the govt. is willing to subsidize their inefficiency with your tax dollars, it is a good deal.


14 posted on 08/16/2018 6:04:59 PM PDT by Parmy
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There were decent tax credits and a solar company was paying for the panels and taking the energy and selling it back to the utilities.

The homeowner only “wins” after several years.

They came through my neighborhood and i was going to have to cut down a huge oak in my front yard. No thanks.


16 posted on 08/16/2018 6:34:39 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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There a couple of companies that will install the panels for free but charge you for the use of the electricity. Most of the recent conversion are this type of set-up. They claim, that they will beat the electric rates. Electric rates are high here but our winters are long and dark with a lot of snow.


17 posted on 08/16/2018 6:39:41 PM PDT by outpostinmass2
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I can’t speak to the validity of this, but my friend from Norway claims that solar powered generation is ‘pretty good’ there because the PV cells operate more efficiently at lower ambient temperatures.
Maybe he just is trying to make lemonade out of lemons, as I can’t picture a boost in efficiency overcoming 20+ hours of dusk/darkness in the winter. Summertime perhaps, but you’d need a pretty big battery to tide you over during the winter months!


18 posted on 08/17/2018 3:50:55 AM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (12:01 PM 1/20/2017...The end of an error.)
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Thanks for the feed back - I wasn’t asking because I wanted to get panels .. just wondering what the deal was - I told my wife I thought it was a way for good little liberals to show how much they care - kinda like giant safety pins!
“ I covered my whole roof (Even the angles pointing away from the sun) so I care more than you” That type of thing

We have a lot more sun out in the mid-west but I never see that many panels.


19 posted on 08/17/2018 5:40:19 AM PDT by conservativehusker
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I live in Mass, am an electrician, have installed solar, some even in Rehoboth. I’m not ashamed. Solar is not for everyone but properly sized it can cut one’s dependence on the Grid, some people prefer to blindly subsidize utilities, that’s cool.

Currently I’m installing a 150 KW solar system in Vermont, in that case the total electricity generated from solar and small hydro on that particular utility circuit exceeds the demand, the utility exports the additional power elsewhere within their own grid and to neighboring utilizes. So solar can and does work in NE and the utilities earn revenue from the solar systems without any investment.

Storage Batteries, they can be installed with or without a solar PV system. The concept is to store electricity during off peak periods (usually mornings and mid day) at a lower rate and to then self consume the stored energy during peak hours (late afternoon and evenings). The idea is to never export to the grid but to self consume what is self generated. While most utilities charge a flat fee for usage, some are now beginning to charge different rates depending on the time of day via smart metering. Beyond usage fees they are also charging delivery or connection fees, they are charging in some cases usually commercial customers “peak demand” fees - based on the highest peak usage from the previous six months, “reserving” that capacity if it is needed or not.

One town in Mass, Spencer has a tractor trailer sized battery (not sure of its electrical rating) located in its substation. The town has a municipal power company and it uses the battery to control its peak usage - that alone has allowed for a pay back in less than six years, they can also power the police and fire department for 14 days without power.

So like anything else, it depends on what you are using it for and how it is designed.


20 posted on 08/17/2018 10:17:20 AM PDT by Sparky1776
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