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This bone fragment harbors the most direct evidence yet of ancient interspecies mating. [Thomas Higham, University Of Oxford]

This bone fragment harbors the most direct evidence yet of ancient interspecies mating. [Thomas Higham, University Of Oxford]

1 posted on 08/23/2018 3:42:12 AM PDT by SunkenCiv
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To: SunkenCiv

If they can interbreed, then they are not separate species.

Separate species have different genetic codes, so it is impossible for them to breed.

Unless you are using the much less stringent idea of inability to interbreed due to chronological or physical barriers, i.e. time and space. (s)


3 posted on 08/23/2018 3:50:17 AM PDT by wbarmy (I chose to be a sheepdog once I saw what happens to the sheep.)
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To: SunkenCiv

>>An analysis of the woman’s genome, reported in this week’s issue of Nature, indicates her mother was Neanderthal and her father was Denisovan, the mysterious group of ancient humans discovered in the same Siberian cave in 2011. It is the most direct evidence yet that various ancient humans mated with each other and had offspring.

“science” magazine assumes her father was Denisovan. Maybe the breeding partner was but maybe her mother’s lifepartner was a transwoman. < /s >


4 posted on 08/23/2018 3:54:57 AM PDT by a fool in paradise
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5 posted on 08/23/2018 3:56:25 AM PDT by MUDDOG
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To: SunkenCiv

By definition, if they had fertile offspring, they were one species. In some cases, this indicates that populations that were once thought of separate species are one (Polar Bears and Grizzly bears, for instance.)

In this case, Neanderthals were already regarded as Homo Sapiens, as many humans have significant amount of Neanderthal in them (no joke) meaning that offspring of H Sapiens Sapiens and H Sapiens Neanderthalis were fertile.

I’m not sure what the news is here: “A 2013 comparison with the genome of another Neanderthal from the Denisova cave revealed local interbreeding with local Neanderthal DNA representing 17% of the Denisovan genome, and evidence of interbreeding with an as yet unidentified ancient human lineage.” [Wikipedia citing Pennisis (2003) in Science]


6 posted on 08/23/2018 4:03:23 AM PDT by dangus
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To: SunkenCiv

“The woman may have been just a teenager ...”

Did they just assume her gender? Wow, just wow. I can’t even. It’s 2018!


8 posted on 08/23/2018 4:07:34 AM PDT by cdcdawg
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To: SunkenCiv

If they successfully mated with fertile offspring, they were the same species


9 posted on 08/23/2018 4:13:32 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: SunkenCiv
The woman may have been just a teenager when she died more than 50,000 years ago, too young to have left much of a mark on her world.

That's a bit of a strange comment!

11 posted on 08/23/2018 4:24:08 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob ("Other People's Money" = The life blood of Liberalism)
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To: SunkenCiv
Looks familiar: a 'Neanderthal child’ in the museum at Les Eyzies-de-Tayac, France
12 posted on 08/23/2018 4:24:36 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: SunkenCiv

If they interbred and had fertile offspring, then they can’t be different species.


14 posted on 08/23/2018 4:26:38 AM PDT by mewzilla (Has the FBI been spying on members of Congress?)
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To: SunkenCiv

Now, how do they know it was a female?? Maybe she identified as a boy. Oh wait she had XX so it will be a female...


17 posted on 08/23/2018 4:43:56 AM PDT by ConservaTeen (Islam is Not the Religion of Peace, but The religion of Pedophilia...)
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To: SunkenCiv

Experts can tell, from a fragment of a bone, the SEX of the person. There are two: Male and Female. There is no stupid foolishness like a spectrum of 50,000 genders or other crap.


18 posted on 08/23/2018 4:50:07 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media deliberately and intentionally chooses to lie, with full awareness and knowledge.)
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To: SunkenCiv

So there really was a middle earth.


19 posted on 08/23/2018 4:50:20 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: SunkenCiv

“Now we have the love child of two different hominin groups, found where members of both groups have been found. It’s quite a lot of things happening in one cave through time.”

There was probably as much love in this mating as when Berlin fell to the Russians.


21 posted on 08/23/2018 4:54:31 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (The first step in ending the war on white people is to recognize it exists.)
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To: SunkenCiv

“too young to have left much of a mark on her world”

Maybe she was the one that wiped out the neanderthals and denisovians.


23 posted on 08/23/2018 6:57:03 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: SunkenCiv

See what happens when you eat organic? You go extinct.


24 posted on 08/23/2018 7:10:29 AM PDT by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: SunkenCiv

Neanderthals went on an extremely successful Love Tour, though according to genetic evidence, they had no interest in African women.


37 posted on 08/23/2018 11:11:51 AM PDT by Architect of Avalon
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To: SunkenCiv
Are they sure it was Denisovan and a Neanderthal? Maybe one was a Neanderthal who identified as a Denisovan or vice versa...😋
41 posted on 08/23/2018 3:00:58 PM PDT by Deplorable American1776 (Proud to be a DeplorableAmerican with a Deplorable Family...even the dog is, too. :-))
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43 posted on 08/27/2018 1:09:24 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (www.tapatalk.com/groups/godsgravesglyphs/, forum.darwincentral.org, www.gopbriefingroom.com)
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