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This seems ludicrous to me. I started a new job in June and began my 401K immediately putting in the maximum amount that my employer will match (6%)

I already have almost $3,000 since then and these people don't even have $5K? How can that possibly be if you've worked for 20-30 years?

Something isn't right.

1 posted on 08/27/2018 12:25:53 PM PDT by TangledUpInBlue
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Well...you got in..during a very good bull market.

What you ought to do is self direct...

I know that that 6% has a stop/max too....per year.

Good luck...!!

45 posted on 08/27/2018 12:57:55 PM PDT by Osage Orange (Whiskey Tango Foxtrot)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Some people don’t tick the box to contribute.

Some keep getting divorced and having the fund raided.

Some raid it on their own and pay the penalties to cash-out to pay their debts.


48 posted on 08/27/2018 12:59:19 PM PDT by Buckeye McFrog
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To: TangledUpInBlue

My 21 yr. old son has very similar circumstances to you, except he has this as a result of his working through through high school and now college to get this.

Two things, first as I manage his account it is stunning to me that he earned about an overall return of 30%, in large measure thanks to the Trump economy.

Second, in “the old days” it was pretty rare to have 401(k) plans. Some employers had them, most didn’t. So it’s not quite fair to draw that comparison. As they are now ubiquitous — even for part-timers — and they have access to Roth accounts, there is little excuse not to have, especially when the employer is kicking in.

All my young kids have 401 (k) plans although my youngest is a stand alone plan and not through her small employer. But good for you being smart!


51 posted on 08/27/2018 1:00:21 PM PDT by Obadiah
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“How can that possibly be if you’ve worked for 20-30 years”

Fancy cars, fancy clothes, private schools, colleges, credit card debt, bad investments, poor life decisions, and health problems not covered by insurance.

There are many reasons. However, many people just spend too much. I work in an office where traders make six figure incomes. Many of them spend it all.


57 posted on 08/27/2018 1:03:31 PM PDT by woodbutcher1963
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Kids, divorce, business failures, illness... Its not as hard as it seems... sadly.

I have had to start over twice because of things beyond my control...

I’ll be fine, but I also have a very big shovel to help dig me out compared to most...

As the saying go, men plan, God laughs.

I watched my parents struggle to provide for us kids, they are now closing in on retirement.... They are okay, but I doubt highly they had 2 nickels in retirement savings back when all 4 of us were at home.


58 posted on 08/27/2018 1:03:34 PM PDT by HamiltonJay
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Apparently, many people - 1 in 3 - have no IRAs or 401Ks or options for one. Seems right when numerous articles over the last year have indicated that roughly 19-20%+ do not have $1000 for an emergency fund or 65%+ do not save money or 60%+/- of Americans do not have $500 in savings or 42%+ of Americans will retire broke, etc., etc., etc.

Something is right...in what this article is indicating.....


59 posted on 08/27/2018 1:04:00 PM PDT by cranked
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I have no doubt in my mind that this will be blown up into a huge hair-fire emergency by the media and parasitic class i.e. politicians, who will then pass laws to steal from those who have 401Ks to give to those "less fortunate", including, of course, the creation of yet another bureaucracy to "administer" this wealth transfer.

You watch and see.

62 posted on 08/27/2018 1:05:08 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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I believe it.

Many people live for the moment and don’t want to deny themselves to save for later.

Plus there’s the mentality that Medicare will pay for health care and SS will give them some income.

I think the entitlement mentality and normalacy bias contribute to those figures.


65 posted on 08/27/2018 1:09:10 PM PDT by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith......)
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If taxes were not so high, just perhaps more people would have more money put away. Instead, the fed government has the attitude that any money you make is theirs, and they just take what they want.


69 posted on 08/27/2018 1:12:16 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Cynicism is the only refuge in a world that is determined to eliminate itself.)
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Ever hear the parable of the grasshopper and the ants? As I recall, when winter came the grasshopper starved and died.

So it should always be. You plan, you work, you save and you live. Otherwise you die.

Life is tough. It is a lot tougher is you are stupid and lazy.

No real surprise in these stats. Almost a third are already wards of the state / on the permanent dole.


75 posted on 08/27/2018 1:23:02 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (It feels like we have exchanged our dreams for survival. We just have a few days that don't suck.)
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1 in 3 Americans have less than $5,000 saved for retirement

Aren't about 1 in 3 Americans under the age of 21?

76 posted on 08/27/2018 1:23:29 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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Not everyone works where there is a defined contribution retirement plan.

Not everyone can afford to max out retirement accounts, and some people find themselves in situations where they can’t afford anything at all.

Not everyone thinks it’s very important (not everyone is particularly bright).

Some people still have pensions, and with Social Security, they’ll be okay, if not great.

A lot of folks are young, and just starting out, and are trying to form independent households, and struggling to get there. I wonder what percentage of the population cited is under 30.

Some people have a different strategy for retirement. I have a rather brilliant employee who has regularly cleaned out my employer contribution to her 401(k) account. But her parents died, leaving her with an inheritance which, when combined with Social Security, will leave her fairly comfortable.


78 posted on 08/27/2018 1:26:26 PM PDT by sitetest (No longer mostly dead.)
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Among the many valuable lessons my Dad taught me was to always live below my means...and I've done so.

As a result of that,as well as thanks to hard work and a fair amount of good luck I'm far from poor (as I define the word) and I'm just as far from being rich.

I'm reluctant to judge the circumstances of others.Bad luck is just as real as the good luck I've experienced.

This country's been good to and my family.My family has also been good to me,as has at least one employer.

This story surprises me....and of course each person/household has an individual story.

83 posted on 08/27/2018 1:31:07 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (I've Never Owned Slaves...You've Never Picked Cotton.End Of "Discussion".)
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This is really scary, that so many Americans have under $3,000 saved for retirement.

My wife and I are in our mid-50s and we have $1.3m in 401(K) between us but we are so concerned it won't be enough that I recently increased my contribution to the max. Speaking for myself, it wasn't terribly hard to do. Since my mid-20s, I've been contributing at least 7% of my income and getting a company match of 3% - so 10% of my income for 30 years.

I just know that I'm going to have to pay much higher taxes to help those who didn't save.

89 posted on 08/27/2018 1:55:23 PM PDT by SamAdams76 ( If you are offended by what I have to say here then you can blame your parents for raising a wuss)
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The grasshopper and the ant. The grasshoppers vote for Elizabeth Warren and she gives them the ants’ nest eggs. We ants are vastly outnumbered by the grasshoppers. I anticipated this forty years ago. I have 52k defined benefit pension and over a cool mill in my 401k. Why bother? The Democrats are going to “recapture” that money before long.


95 posted on 08/27/2018 2:22:44 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Molon Labe)
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That truly is frightening. Must be they’re planning to live off the paltry Social Security payout — and that’s not even possible. Some have pensions, but pensions are ending for many so you can’t really count on that.

Generally, there are programs in place through employers that make saving for retirement pretty easy. Of course, if new toys and gadgets are a priority, that’s another story.


98 posted on 08/27/2018 2:40:51 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Have an A-1 day.)
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Many of them did not start early.

Another whole bunch of them got wrecked during the financial crisis. They got laid off and withdrew money to live on.

I could pass judgement on their cash flow management, but it won’t put any more $ in their bank.


100 posted on 08/27/2018 2:56:59 PM PDT by Vermont Lt
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*** “I already have almost $3,000 since then and these people don’t even have $5K? How can that possibly be if you’ve worked for 20-30 years?” ***

WTF!? You have Never Heard of DIVORCE?
Definition of Divorce is ... When a Middle aged Man is Stripped of ALL Assets and may incur a LONG TERM support payments.

EVERYTHING goes away except Bills, Payments and any hope of Retirement.

Guess what “SPORT” your Wife’s 401K is HERS and Hers alone... If you are the Husband however... it is 1/2 hers, all property/assets that are Paid For are Hers ... it does get worse or better (depending on which yo are the Husband or the Wife)

Have fun ... sport... been there done that, you have been warned

Marriage is the DUMBEST thing a Man Can Do... or the absolute BEST thing ... depends on what happens 25 years after you say “I DO”

Whatever ... ENJOY


108 posted on 08/27/2018 4:30:23 PM PDT by TexasTransplant (Damn the Torpedoes! Full Speed Ahead!)
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>>And for good reason: A shocking 21 percent of Americans have nothing at all saved for the future, and another 10 percent have less than $5,000 tucked away, the study finds.<<

Yeah? Well so what?


110 posted on 08/28/2018 5:03:14 AM PDT by fortes fortuna juvat (RED ALERT: Vote in November or the 'rats will cripple our President & our Country.)
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