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To: BroJoeK

The Federal Army was segregated. On top of that black soldiers were in a support role until the war was half over.. The Confederate Army was never segregated. You are wrong in your assertion that black Confederate soldiers were not fighting and its easily disproven. Here’s an interesting article from a black man who went to war and fought with his owner. And guess what, he said he would do it again. They also were given discharges like any other soldier and applied and were given pensions like any other soldier.

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The truth is until very recently Southern persons of color knew they had Confederate ancestors, and they knew the truth of Lincoln’s illegal war because their ancestors told them.
Here is an example of black Mississippi legislator, John F Harris, making a speech in favor of the erection of a Confederate monument in 1890 who came to address the legislature from a sick bed when he found out a member had opposed the monument.

Give this a read and you’ll understand why the Sons and Daughters of Confederates should never have decided to become ghosts in society.

“Mr. Speaker! I have arisen here in my place to offer a few words on the bill. I have come from a sick bed ... perhaps it was not prudent for me to come. But, sir, I could not rest quietly in my room without ... contributing ... a few remarks of my own. I was sorry to hear the speech of the young gentleman from Marshall County. I am sorry that any son of a Soldier should go on record as opposed to the erection of a monument in honor of the brave dead. And, Sir, I am convinced that had he seen what I saw at Seven Pines and in the Seven Days’ fighting around Richmond, the Battlefield was covered with the mangled forms of those who fought for their country and for their countries honor, he would not have made that speech.

When the news came that the South had been invaded, those men went forth to fight for what they believed, and they made no requests for monuments. ... But they died, and their virtues should be remembered. Sir, I went with them. I too, wore the gray, the same color my master wore. We stayed four long years, and if that war had gone on till now I would have been there yet ... I want to honor those brave men who died for their convictions. When my mother died I was a boy. Who, Sir, then acted the part of a mother to the orphaned slave boy, but my ‘old missus’? Were she living now, or could speak to me from those high realms where are gathered the sainted dead, she would tell me to vote for this bill. And, Sir, I shall vote for it. I want it to be known to all the world that my vote is given in favor of the bill to erect a monument in honor of the Confederate dead.”
Source: Daily Clarion, Jackson, Mississippi, Feb 23, 1890


164 posted on 09/13/2018 8:23:01 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("Man without God descends into madness")
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To: NKP_Vet
Going camping and hiking(which is what the Civil War was, plus shooting at each other) in close quaters with blacks would not be problem for Southener who had lived with blacks all their life.

OTH for Northerners, blacks were exotic creatures that segregating in the Army made sense.

166 posted on 09/13/2018 8:32:06 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn)
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To: NKP_Vet; central_va
NKP_Vet: "Here’s an interesting article from a black man who went to war and fought with his owner.
And guess what, he said he would do it again."

There's no denying that at least tens of thousands of slaves supported Confederate armies throughout the war.
There are also occasional reports of body servants standing with their masters in battle to, for example, reload his rifle.
But there are no reliable reports of such men being enlisted soldiers.

Indeed, the Confederacy notably refused to do the one thing which could have turned its biggest liability into its greatest strength -- as George Washington did in the Revolutionary War, offer slaves freedom in exchange for military service.
Not until the very end when it was far too little, far too late.
Confederate generals like Patrick Cleburne who had recommended it years earlier were not well treated.

NKP_Vet: "They also were given discharges like any other soldier and applied and were given pensions like any other soldier."

Not at the time, maybe years later and at most a tiny handful of the many tens of thousands who served and even them you have to wonder.
Stolen valor was not invented in modern times, after any war many more claim to have served than actually did.
Today, for example, the numbers claiming to be Vietnam vets is said to be triple those who actually are.

167 posted on 09/13/2018 12:17:15 PM PDT by BroJoeK ((a little historical perspective...))
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