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To: familyop; CDR Kerchner; Lurkinanloomin

With respect for your extensive research with the intent of proving that the Natural Born Citizen wording is dependent on British Common Law, I will inform you that the United States Constitution Framers DID NOT follow the British Common Law in this extremely important Constitutional wording.
Natural Born Citizen is clearly defined in Vattel’s Law of Nations.
Unfortunately, many Americans have no knowledge of Vattel and his internationally acknowledged position as THE NUMBER ONE EXPERT on International Law at the time of the Framing. His three volumes Law of Nations is cited innumerable times in the discussions and writings of the Founders throughout the formative period of the Constitution. To completely dismiss Vattel and pose the entirety of any argument regarding the definition of “Natural Born Citizen” on the basis of British Common Law is a travesty of the first order. In fact, it is a position of IGNORANCE. Furthermore the distinction between Citizen and Natural Born Citizen should be evident to anyone. Why use the term Natural Born Citizen when the term Citizen would suffice? Common Sense (sadly diminished today)insists THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.
Nobarack08 posted a list in November of 2009 of instances the founders used and discussed the Law of Nations. I have had ab enormous interest in Vattel for well over 50 years and noted his posting which I have studied. All Americans would do well to expand their knowledge by looking up at least a few examples nobarack08 listed.
Just a note to prove the use of the Law of Nations by our Founders and Framers:
Journal of the Senate of the United States of America, Monday, March 10, 1794, Volume 2, page 44
Ordered, That the Secretary purchase Blackstone’s Commentaries, and Vattel’s Law of Nature and Nations, for the use of the Senate.
The copy of Vattel’s Law of Nations used earlier had been a gift to the Founders.


47 posted on 09/09/2018 10:48:24 AM PDT by Mollypitcher1 (I have not yet begun to fight....John Paul Jones)
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To: Mollypitcher1

Vattel’s treatise, “The Law of Nations of Principles of Natural Law”, was the lodestar for many aspects of our founding documents. See my collection re. Vattel’s Influence on U.S. Founders & Constitution’s Framers: https://www.scribd.com/lists/3224507/Vattel-s-Influence-on-U-S-Founders-Constitution-s-Framers


49 posted on 09/09/2018 11:05:20 AM PDT by CDR Kerchner (natural born Citizen, natural law, Emer de Vattel, Supreme Court, presidential, eligibility)
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To: Mollypitcher1

Those who do not understand the clear meaning of “natural born citizen” are the same people who do not understand “shall not be infringed”, neither need defining for the clear-thinking.
They do not want them understood as clearly as they are written.


50 posted on 09/09/2018 11:07:24 AM PDT by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Mollypitcher1

Benjamin Franklin in 1775 thanks Charles Dumas of the Netherlands for sending him 3 more copies of the newest edition of Vattel’s “Law of Nations or Principles of Natural Law”: https://puzo1.wordpress.com/category/benjamin-franklin/


51 posted on 09/09/2018 11:08:41 AM PDT by CDR Kerchner (natural born Citizen, natural law, Emer de Vattel, Supreme Court, presidential, eligibility)
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