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Lindbergh denounces the British, "the Jewish", and the FDR administration. Britain cannot "win the war she declared on Germany." He threatens the Jews: "Tolerance is a virtue that depends upon peace and strength. History shows that it cannot survive war and devastations."

Interestingly, Lindbergh makes no mention of the Communists, although the war had shifted to the USSR.

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1 posted on 09/11/2018 11:45:18 AM PDT by iowamark
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And Lindbergh said... what here that was incorrect? By the autumn of 1941, pointing out that America’s Jews wanted the US to join the fight against Hitler was like observing that water is wet... except Lindbergh got slimed for it. Read also where he describes how America First followers are being treated... eerily like Trump supporters are abused and lied about today.


33 posted on 09/11/2018 12:56:00 PM PDT by Demiurge2 (Define your terms!)
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34 posted on 09/11/2018 1:00:04 PM PDT by gattaca ("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
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To: iowamark
Take a knee, Lindberg...


36 posted on 09/11/2018 1:02:13 PM PDT by SparkyBass
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Did he know Joe Sr. or Henry?


38 posted on 09/11/2018 1:08:19 PM PDT by Leep
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HOW DARE HE????

Didn’t he know that Israel is our greatest ally?


43 posted on 09/11/2018 1:35:34 PM PDT by Yashcheritsiy (I'd rather have one king 3000 miles away that 3000 kings one mile away)
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44 posted on 09/11/2018 1:36:48 PM PDT by Southside_Chicago_Republican (If liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear.)
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“Interestingly, Lindbergh makes no mention of the Communists, although the war had shifted to the USSR.”

Read the article.


46 posted on 09/11/2018 1:42:13 PM PDT by dsc (Our system of government cannot survive one-party control of communications.)
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Three months from Pearl Harbor. Bad timing.

Fact is the fall of France and the Nazi conquest of most of Europe shook Washington to the core. It was obvious that eventually America would somehow be dragged in and we were utterly unprepared. With bipartisan support Congress passed the Two Ocean Navy Act, a peacetime draft, a munitions bill for a million man Army and other measures. And to Lindbergh's disgust, Lend-Lease, because Britain was broke and would have to make a hard peace with the Nazis if we didn't help them.

We were still terribly unprepared in December 1941, but much, much better than in 1940.

I wouldn't have given you a command, either, Lindy. It's one thing to be in the American isolationist tradition but quite another to hobnob with the likes of Goering and Hitler.

47 posted on 09/11/2018 1:43:49 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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48 posted on 09/11/2018 1:47:11 PM PDT by Jaded (Pope Francis? Not really a fan... miss the last guy who recognized how Islam spread... the sword.ag)
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A few days later, the Jewish Telegraphic Agency surveyed reactions to Lindbergh's speech:

Severe criticism against Charles A. Lindbergh for charging his speech in Des Moines that the Jews are “the second major group leading America towards war,” is being voiced in almost all leading newspapers throughout the country. At the same time it is reported that Lindbergh’s slur on the Jews has also provoked dissatisfaction in the ranks of the America First Committee which sponsored the flier’s speech. Some members of the America First Committee may withdraw unless the organization repudiates Lindbergh’s anti-Jewish tenets.

The New York Herald-Tribune, in an editorial “Against the American Sprit,” said: “The Des Moines speech, marking the climax of a series of innuendoes and covert allusions by isolationist leaders, opens new and ugly vistas and seeks to inject into open debate subjects which all good Americans should pray might be confined to the pages of the ‘Voelkischer Beobachter’ and the addresses of one Adolf Hitler. To be sure, Mr. Lindbergh did not counsel anti-Semitism. He warned the Jews that they may suffer from it in the event of war – and provided anti-Semites with fuel for their anti-Semitism. He asserted, after the fashion of anti-Semites everywhere, that the Jews were dangerous to the United States because of their ‘large ownership and influence in our motion pictures, our press, our radio and our government.’ To state that Jews exert an influence in this country out of proportion to their numbers is to state what is unproved and unprovable; to state that their influence is exerted as Jews and not as American citizens is to libel not only the Jews but the whole American system.”

The New York Post, in an editorial “Obsession,” comments: “So deep does Mr. Lindbergh’s anti-Semitism go that he can look upon a world in which almost half the human race has suffered intolerable outrage against its independence and dignity, and decide that somehow the chief villain in the piece is the Jew. This is no shallow, surface anti-Semitism, no mere petulance or passing bar-room anger; this is a deep, dark, mystical current, Teutonic, if not in inspiration, quite obviously in coloration and content. Only a feeling that has climbed to the level of obsession, only a fury among emotions can explain such an analysis of recent events. To look upon a nation which has responded to an obvious peril by taxing and straining itself for a fifty billion-dollar defense program, and to conclude that its future would be bright if only the Jews would cease to make war, is to tell us more about the speaker than about the world in which he lives. This is anti-Semitism of size, so strong that it seems to have taken possession of its possessor.”

The Detroit Free Press, in an editorial carrying the headline “Enough Said,” writes: “Colonel Lindbergh at Des Moines let his mask slip long enough to charge that the Jews are responsible for our entry into the World war. No more need be said. He should not only keep that Nazi medal Goring pinned on him. He should use it as a decoration for a Ku Klux Klan nightshirt when he is also given that “honorary” decoration.”

The Philadelphia Inquirer in its editorial on Lindbergh’s speech says: “Anti-Semitism is a cardinal Nazi doctrine. Without urging anti-Semitism in so many words, Lindbergh virtually accuses Jewish citizens in the United States of being dangerous to its peace and safety. Place the most striking passages from Lindbergh’s and Hitler’s speeches side by side and they are as alike as Tweedledum and Tweedledee.”

The Cincinnati Enquirer declares: “Lindbergh took the chapter and verse of his speech from official German propaganda. It was not the first time this has occurred, but never before so strikingly as when he said that America was being driven to war by three groups – the British, the Jews, and the Roosevelt Administration. Characteristically, there was not a word of criticism of the Nazis in his speech. Anti-Semitism, Hitler’s staple commodity, showed itself repeatedly in Lindbergh’s speech.”

The Chicago Tribune, taking an apologetic tone, writes: “Col. Lindbergh said that the Jews of America, as a group, are working for war, although he conceded that a few far-sighted Jews see the folly of this course and oppose it. He might have added that other racial groups whose birthplaces have been overrun by Hitler are also working for war. But neither these other groups nor the Jews are unanimous in this. It may be recalled that while the only ward in Chicago that voted for war in The Tribune’s poll was a predominantly Jewish community, that ward gave only the barest majority for war… Americans have but one demand that they may rightfully make of American Jews and that is the same demand that they rightfully make of Americans of British, Polish, Italian, Irish, or any other descent. It is that they think and act as Americans. This does not mean that in political matters, and particularly in matters touching our foreign relations, they should be wholly American and not members of any racial group.”

The Kansas City Times, Calling Lindbergh’s attack on the Jews “cheap, unfair and un-American,” states: “When Mr. Lindbergh publicly accuses a racial group among his fellow countrymen of warmongering, as he did on Thursday night in Des Moines, then he goes beyond the rights of an American citizen. Lindbergh may not have meant to play upon race prejudice when he described the Jews of the United States as anxious to bring this country into the conflict, out of sympathy for the plight of the Jews in Germany. That remains, however, the incontestable effect of what he said.”


55 posted on 09/11/2018 2:38:24 PM PDT by cynwoody
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Interestingly, Lindbergh makes no mention of the Communists, although the war had shifted to the USSR.

Read it again:

Add to these the Communistic groups who were opposed to intervention until a few weeks ago, and I believe I have named the major war agitators in this country.

I didn't read it as particularly antisemitic, at least not openly and violently so. He does not seem to treat Jews any worse than "the British". I saw no particular hostility to Jews, just opposition to a cause favored by most Jews. Again, you citation, in more context:

It is not difficult to understand why Jewish people desire the overthrow of Nazi Germany. The persecution they suffered in Germany would be sufficient to make bitter enemies of any race.

No person with a sense of the dignity of mankind can condone the persecution of the Jewish race in Germany. But no person of honesty and vision can look on their pro-war policy here today without seeing the dangers involved in such a policy both for us and for them. Instead of agitating for war, the Jewish groups in this country should be opposing it in every possible way for they will be among the first to feel its consequences.

Tolerance is a virtue that depends upon peace and strength. History shows that it cannot survive war and devastations. A few far-sighted Jewish people realize this and stand opposed to intervention. But the majority still do not.

That last paragraph could be more clear. I didn't see it as threat, maybe a misdirected warning. I wasn't sure if it was intended to warn of consequences to German or American Jews. Pearl Harbor, or no Pearl Harbor, the brunt of the task of defeating Germany fell to Russia. Without Russian success, which was by no means assured in 1941, the War in Europe would have at best been a tie. If Japan had helped Germany finish off Russia, she could have had easy pickings in Siberia, and a strong ally against the United States.
61 posted on 09/11/2018 4:04:08 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Molon Labe)
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Lindbergh was more right than he was wrong.

I find it interesting to read of so many Freepers condemning Lindbergh for his isolationism and his supposed hatred of Jews and of being a Nazi.

One has to remind Freepers that he was speaking about twenty years after the “Great War’ in which millions died, including Americans for, not to “Make the world safe for Democracy” but to gain colonies abroad and redrawn Continental Europe.

Democracy was “safe” for millions around the world under the thumb of either empires or dictatorship. Many of which were our most dearest allies.

Hypocrisy was abounding then just as it does today.

Lindbergh witnessed this and his greatest fear was being dragged into another war for ‘Democracy” abroad.

We have lost about 5,000 military there and untold billions in our foreign wars to “Make the world Safe for Democracy”

How many of us are willing to got back into the middle east to save Christians there from being exterminated? Yet be are soooo critical of Lindbergh who was only giving voice to what the majority of Americans were thinking prior to Dec 7.

So save your judgmentalism for your own generation.

62 posted on 09/11/2018 4:04:40 PM PDT by RedMonqey ("Those who turn their arms in for plowshares will be doing the plowing for those who didn't.")
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National polls showed that when England and France declared war on Germany, in 1939, less than 10 percent of our population favored a similar course for America.

That was based on the assumption that the three countries would get bogged down in another war of attrition, with neither side getting an upper hand.

Once France fell, that all changed.
82 posted on 09/12/2018 2:27:27 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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