[stanne]

Birth control is conception control. Ok. Now we’ve got
Pretzel logic. It’s a bad tactic. It provides cover for lies.

I am sure that people who don’t want to conceive don’t want to do so for the purpose of preventin birth. And you know that. You’re wasting my time

I will add this. Birth control pills are carcinogenic. The same class as cigarettes too, but Google. Has taken down the CDC report. The hormone screw up they provide causes breast cancer. In women. Not in men. There is no such detriment to men. Only the mothers and babies

[dynoman]

“Birth control is conception control. Ok. Now we’ve got
Pretzel logic. It’s a bad tactic. It provides cover for lies.”

It’s not pretzel logic. The factual order is conception, embryo, birth. If there is no conception there cannot be a birth.

Calling conception prevention, including Natural Family Planning, “birth control”, is a lie of omission.