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POWER METER BAN AT TOUR DE FRANCE?
DC Rainmaker ^ | 26 Oct 2018 | Ray Maker

Posted on 10/26/2018 8:17:48 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

“We reassert our desire to see the end of power meters in races, which annihilate the glorious uncertainty of sport.”

...C’mon now – anyone who’s been involved in major stage races (or any pro race) knows that the single biggest thing they could do to instigate more excitement would be to take away race radios. For those not familiar, race radios are small wireless radios worn by the riders that allow them to communicate with their team.

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KEYWORDS: bicycle; bicyclebike; bicycling; bike; cycling; cyclist; pedal; powermeter; race; raceradio; racing; radio; spandex; tdf; tourdefrance; uci
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Not sure about the Pros, but for me, a heart rate monitor is somewhat analogous to watts but with lag, sometimes lots of lag.

Any calls for the motorsports guys to black out the tachometer?

1 posted on 10/26/2018 8:17:48 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

I will be surprised if this thread gets lots of comments. Mine? I agree with the author that they ought to ban race radios. Power meters are useful adjuncts to the radios.


2 posted on 10/26/2018 8:20:44 AM PDT by oldplayer
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To: oldplayer

Every team should ride exactly the same brand and model of bike with exactly the same components adjusted for rider height

Let Sram, Shi(t)mano, Campagnolo and Micro Shift bid for the right to outfit the bikes.

After all it is about the best athlete not the best bike


3 posted on 10/26/2018 8:25:48 AM PDT by Fai Mao (There is no rule of law in the US until The PIAPS is executed.)
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To: Fai Mao

I think experience shows that the bikes are so similar, that there is very little difference in performance. The riders may have preferences, and certainly the sponsors and manufacturers have financial interests, but the bikes rarely make a difference.

BUT, race radios have a huge effect on the racing as the stage unfolds. Breaks are chased down or not, individuals are dropped or not, early racing during the stage is greatly effected. This year’s Tour winner, was a true champion, but it is undeniable that he raced the last week with strategy tied directly to knowing exactly what the race situation every minute of the stages.


4 posted on 10/26/2018 8:33:55 AM PDT by oldplayer
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To: DUMBGRUNT

"...powermeters..."


I would also rather see race radios go away.
That would also make it a safer race for the riders, too.


5 posted on 10/26/2018 8:34:25 AM PDT by Blue Jays ( Rock hard ~ Ride free)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Want to increase excitement in cycle races?

Just equip each rider with a mace to clear the way through the spectators...especially in the mountains.


6 posted on 10/26/2018 8:38:18 AM PDT by Roccus (When you talk to a politician...ANY politician...always say, "Remember Ceausescu")
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To: DUMBGRUNT; nutmeg; whattajoke; Aeronaut; jern; concentric circles; Petronski; Voss; glorgau; ...

Bike Ping

When the use of radio communication was allowed, I knew we were heading in this direction.

I have long held to my personal belief that there should be no restrictions on drug use in sports because the pro level business is entertainment in its purest form and in that vein, athletes are no different than actors, dancers or wrestlers.

I think if you asked top level amateurs in sports if they would risk potential health problems for fame and fortune by taking performance enhancement drugs, most would say, "Yes".

The technical advances being developed differ from physical advantages in that anyone can get them and use them. But the game changing attributes of either one are almost endless.

Even the simple and natural sport of golf is being changed by digital enhancements such as devices that measure distance, temperature, wind speed/direction and even read greens. If we do not return to pure physical competition there will be no end to the continued devolution of all sports.

7 posted on 10/26/2018 8:42:20 AM PDT by Baynative ( "If you don't have a seat at the table, you're on the menu.")
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To: DUMBGRUNT
Is the Tour De France still using FLIR cameras to detect cheating?


8 posted on 10/26/2018 8:46:33 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Yeah - I find tachometers cheating in races. A pro driver should know when to shift by feel and sound alone as we’ll know how to take that turn.

It worked for Luke when destroying the Death Star!


9 posted on 10/26/2018 8:48:30 AM PDT by Skywise
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To: Baynative
I am with Anquetil. It is time to legalize sex and champagne.

Anquetil-2


10 posted on 10/26/2018 8:53:28 AM PDT by golux
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Not a fan of the France race.
Now, the other 2 races in the triple crown !? Hell yeah ! Giro and Vuelata are t-o-u-g-h TOUGH ! Hills right off the bat.

What i`d like to see:

1. No more 2 way rain communications.
2. Smaller teams of 5 only.
3. No more power meters, bands around their chest collecting data.
4. Only speedo/rpm gauges.


11 posted on 10/26/2018 8:54:29 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45 (Americans, happy in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own dictators.)
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To: Para-Ord.45

*1. No more 2 way radio communications.

F`n spell check.


12 posted on 10/26/2018 8:55:57 AM PDT by Para-Ord.45 (Americans, happy in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own dictators.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

For me, get more teams competitive. One or two dominate every TdF. 30 years of following the race. It’s getting boring more and more.


13 posted on 10/26/2018 8:59:54 AM PDT by llevrok (Vote while it's still legal)
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To: Fai Mao

Try getting sponsorships doing that.

All the bikes are already pretty much the same. Same with components. Now it’s down to team strength, and that’s largely a function of budget: who can buy the deepest talent?

Cap budgets and see what changes.


14 posted on 10/26/2018 9:12:18 AM PDT by IronJack
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To: Fai Mao

“Every team should ride exactly the same brand and model of bike with exactly the same components adjusted for rider height”

Keirin racing in Japan does just that.

That said, the Keirin racers appear to be out there, way out there.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVbwngNoHm0

I ride rollers, but not even close, my knees hurt just watching.


15 posted on 10/26/2018 9:15:49 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (So what!)
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To: oldplayer

“I will be surprised if this thread gets lots of comments.”

The usual suspects, A few riders and a few spandex haters.


16 posted on 10/26/2018 9:18:04 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (So what!)
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To: oldplayer

Agreed to all you stated.
But, “Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the mouth.”

How much do the radios take away from the gamesmanship of the ‘Master of the Peloton (Le Patron)’?
Was it LA that set a new record for the peloton one hot flat day, just to discipline a few?


17 posted on 10/26/2018 9:34:38 AM PDT by DUMBGRUNT (So what!)
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To: Skywise
It worked for Luke when destroying the Death Star!

I'll bet Luke's X-Wing had a tachometer...

18 posted on 10/26/2018 9:36:03 AM PDT by rjsimmon (The Tree of Liberty Thirsts)
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To: golux

Can’t quarrel with that!


19 posted on 10/26/2018 9:46:11 AM PDT by Baynative ( "If you don't have a seat at the table, you're on the menu.")
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To: oldplayer

“BUT, race radios have a huge effect on the racing as the stage unfolds. Breaks are chased down or not, individuals are dropped or not, early racing during the stage is greatly effected. “

Should the NFL remove the eye in the sky coaches who look at alignments and decide on the play to be called?


20 posted on 10/26/2018 9:56:22 AM PDT by EQAndyBuzz (EVERYONE IS UNIQUE! JUST LIKE EVERYONE ELSE!)
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