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What are the consequences if the Democrats win the House?

Posted on 11/06/2018 7:45:21 PM PST by Jonty30

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To: rovenstinez; All
"All fiscal bills, legislature begins in committees in the house, moved to the floor, approved, and sent to the Senate for more editing, adding, and changing, The final bill is sent to the President for signature for law That is what I was taught in the 7th grade."

Thanks for posting rovenstinez.

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Note that the Founding States had established the federal Senate partly to kill House appropriations bills that not only steal state powers, but also state revenues uniquely associated with those powers.

In fact, a previous generation of state sovereignty-respecting justices had clarified that Congress is prohibited from appropriating taxes that it cannot justify under its constitutional Article I, Section 8-limited powers, Democrats and RINOs increasingly ignoring their limited power to appropriate taxes since the FDR Administration.

"Congress is not empowered to tax for those purposes which are within the exclusive province of the States."—Justice John Marshall, Gibbons v. Ogden, 1824.


Also note that the congressional record shows that constitutional lawmaker Rep. John Bingham had clarified that the founders had left the care of the people to the states, not the feds.

”... the care of the property, the liberty, and the life of the citizen, under the solemn sanction of an oath imposed by your Federal Constitution, is in the States, and not in the Federal Government [emphases added].” —Rep. John Bingham, Congressional Globe, 1866. (See about middle of 3rd column.)


In fact, military issues aside, note that one of the very few powers that the states have actually expressly constitutional delegated to the feds for domestic purpose taxing and spending is to run the US Mail Service (1.8.7).

In other words, if a federal domestic spending program is not reasonably related to the mail service, unconstitutional federal funding for abortion to buy votes from women for example, then patriots can bet that the program is unconstitutional and probably be right most of the time.

So it’s good that Republicans still control the Senate. This is because, until the states wise up and repeal the ill-conceived 17th Amendment, patriots still have the voting power to tell their federal senators to kill unconstitutional House appropriations bills as the Founding States had intended for the Senate to do.

The 16th Amendment can disappear too.

121 posted on 11/06/2018 9:41:06 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: Hugin

That’s a great idea.


122 posted on 11/06/2018 9:52:53 PM PST by napscoordinator (Trump/Hunter, jr for President/Vice President 2016)
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To: Jonty30

Rats will make fools of themselves and lose the House again in 2020.


123 posted on 11/06/2018 10:08:51 PM PST by rfp1234 (I have already previewed this composition.)
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To: Behind the Blue Wall

There will be no wall..

Ryan will hang around to be sure of it.


124 posted on 11/06/2018 10:59:31 PM PST by cableguymn (We need a redneck in the white house....)
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To: Jonty30
They get to show their ass for two years before losing it back. Big win tonight was getting four more senate seats. We no longer have to kowtow to Murcowski and Collins and can nominate and confirm real conservative judges and Supreme court justices!!!
125 posted on 11/07/2018 12:02:10 AM PST by ontap
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To: rovenstinez

Except apparently tax bills called Obamacare can initiate in the Senate and pass Supreme Court scrutiny.

https://www.briansussman.com/politics/how-obamacare-became-law/

Obamacare was signed into law in March 2010. If you recall, Nancy Pelosi’s Democratic majority in the House of Representatives was unable to pass their version of a healthcare law. Because all revenue bills have to originate in the House, the Senate found a bill that met those qualifications: HR3590, a military housing bill. They essentially stripped the bill of its original language and turned it into the Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act (PPACA), aka Obamacare.


126 posted on 11/07/2018 2:04:10 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: GuavaCheesePuff

The Left wants to tank the economy.

Bill Maher was calling for it even if the plebes have to suffer.


127 posted on 11/07/2018 2:05:49 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committee)
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To: Jonty30

After two years of dem control in House, Trump wins second term in a true landslide and we gain seats in the senate and retake the House in 2020....the Trump agenda gets slowed down but withing 6-8 months, Dems feel enough pressure to make one or two concessions and then boast about it to deflect from their mindless partisanship and obstruction.


128 posted on 11/07/2018 2:16:53 AM PST by trebb (Those who don't donate anything tend to be empty gasbags...no-value-added types)
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To: trebb

The House will be Dem for at least three more cycles.


129 posted on 11/07/2018 2:20:42 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

mmmm, not so fast. Senate confirmation of Trump’s AG replacement is a whole lot easier. And, the House can’t do squat as we have seen for the last two years.


130 posted on 11/07/2018 4:05:59 AM PST by anton
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To: Manly Warrior

Sigh, is right. But, I do take heart in your thorough and thought filled post.


131 posted on 11/07/2018 5:28:03 AM PST by Jane Long (Praise God, from whom ALL blessings flow.)
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To: Jonty30

We will have more contention, gridlock and the invasion will probably go into hyper drive.


132 posted on 11/07/2018 5:36:44 AM PST by Altura Ct.
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