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So, what ever happened to the Florida-flippin' Puerto Ricans?
FR | 11/07/2018 | cll

Posted on 11/07/2018 3:15:00 PM PST by cll

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To: cll

I think the President was more than helpful in the Florida outcome.


21 posted on 11/07/2018 4:46:18 PM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: American Infidel
Hopefully Trump will still carry the other states he carried in 2016. If so; Floridas EV's will not sway the result.

After Beto, the trans-hispanic's near hit on Cruz, the real hispanic, I would not be quick to assume Texas is a sure thing in 2020.

I've come to the conclusion that as long as the black & Jewish vote is liberal monolithic, that is proof the libs game plan of identity politics is still successful.

When a Pubbie gets 14% of the black vote, against a black communist racist, and those on the right are ecstatic, that says a lot about how desperate we are.

22 posted on 11/07/2018 4:50:32 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60's....You weren't really there)
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To: Sacajaweau

I agree .
Thanks .
Enjoy the big Fl win .
We swept every major race .


23 posted on 11/07/2018 5:03:52 PM PST by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalists out themselves)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

The Tx Gov won by 16 pts!

Why is the negativity here .

Cherry picking races to spread .
Its over .
We are doomed .

Desantis won by the same amt as Scott did before .


24 posted on 11/07/2018 5:07:39 PM PST by ncalburt (Gop DC Globalists out themselves)
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To: cll
1) Many of them may not have registered.

2) Outside of New York, Puerto Ricans may not be that liberal.

3) Maybe they're similar to Cubans: if you are entrepreneurial, you go to Miami; otherwise you end up in Jersey City or the Bronx.

25 posted on 11/07/2018 5:16:14 PM PST by x
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To: ChildOfThe60s

No kidding. It’s not like any of the races were total blowouts. If they can move the needle a few more points within one or two more cycles conservatives will be in trouble.


26 posted on 11/07/2018 5:36:50 PM PST by Ribeye (Cranial Protection Equipment courtesy of Reynolds Aluminum)
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To: cll

I swear sometimes reading the comments posted here......

eg “woah is us. Puerto Ricans and Felons and Yankees are going to continue to pour in in an uninterrupted torrent and overwhelm all the sane voters, and everything is going to fall apart and the Democrats are going to manufacture a billion gajillion votes from car trunks to “win” every election. We’re DOOMED! Why don’t we just slit our wrists now and get it over with?”

Sheesh.


27 posted on 11/07/2018 5:37:32 PM PST by FLT-bird
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To: cll

PR had a good (GOP) governor briefly, about 10 years ago, and SEIU did a massive campaign and got him out because he was trying to get rid of the swollen bureaucracy and state apparatus that has long been sucking the life out of PR. However, he was well liked and in his brief stay, he did a lot for PR, which needs an economy where everyone’s highest dream is NOT to be working for the state.

I’ve always thought that the big problem with PR is that many Puerto Ricans were formed by their years in the Democratic Socialist City of New York, but unlike New York, Puerto Rico has no unabashed capitalists or independent economy to carry it forward. It’s all handouts and dysfunction and corruption all the time.

I was staying in a hotel in PR when they had the governors election where the GOP governor lost, and the entire staff was crushed, because business had been doing really well under him and these people wanted a shot at a functioning economy. So I wouldn’t assume that Puerto Ricans, especially those with the resources to come to the mainland, are automatically Dem voters.


28 posted on 11/07/2018 5:37:42 PM PST by livius
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To: cll

Yeah minorities really changed their colors for the house races

/s


29 posted on 11/07/2018 5:39:48 PM PST by dp0622 (The Left should know if Trump is kicked out of office, it is WAR!)
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To: cll

I’m leaning toward thinking about 200,000 black people in FL flipped from D to R since 2016. That would have made up the difference. Trump got 8% of the FL black vote, DeSantis got 14%. Fl has 3.3 million black people. This is still a guess until we get some good exit polling.


30 posted on 11/07/2018 6:46:33 PM PST by Raymann
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To: cll

Somebody here informed me most of the hurricane refugees already went back, but I didn’t see documentation.


31 posted on 11/07/2018 7:00:37 PM PST by Mr. Blond
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To: John S Mosby; cll; All

Are any of President Trump’s tax and international business/tariff activities likely to help the situations described in your last paragraph? If not, how could they be targeted to do so?


32 posted on 11/07/2018 8:32:13 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: cll

There weren’t enough Maria-exiled-to-Florida Puerto Ricans to make a big difference. At the most, it was only around 50,000 Puerto Ricans that left P.R. for Florida, and not all were of voting age.


33 posted on 11/07/2018 8:32:41 PM PST by adorno
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To: Mr. Blond

It’s mostly true. Based on personal experience.


34 posted on 11/08/2018 3:32:07 AM PST by cll (Serviam!)
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To: gleeaikin

Not aware of Trump’s business arrangements that might have benefited from billy boy clinton’s destruction of the greatest industrial and educational benefit Congress provided to the Puerto Rican Territory from 1976!!

Wage credits gave companies incentives to create the maximum number of jobs under section 936 of the U.S. Internal Revenue Service — approved by Congress in 1976 to allow companies to send profits to the U.S. with minimal taxes.

Since section 936 expired 10 years after Bill Clinton pushed for it to be stopped, and thus putting over 2 million skilled Puerto Rican professionals (chem engineers etc) and companies are reducing the size of their workforces, a cloud of uncertainty has formed over small cities where pharmaceuticals have clustered including Cidra, Manati and Barceloneta.

The mayor of Cidra, Angel Malave Zayas, whose city will lose $2.8 million in annual taxes and 900 jobs from the GlaxoSmithKline plant alone.

When 936 was in place, every 3 years Big Pharma cos. would sell each other’s plants to each other and take 3 more years of tax free profits and tax advantaged employment to PR people. It all has since, from that time, the biggest- have gone to Ireland who made special arrangement to get their manufacturing jobs. Thanks to the powder monkey “friend” to working people.. Bill Clinton.

Relevant information on this is here on CNBC (warning, pop up video report from during last years’ hurricane): https://www.cnbc.com/2017/09/26/heres-how-an-obscure-tax-change-sank-puerto-ricos-economy.html


35 posted on 11/08/2018 11:43:08 AM PST by John S Mosby (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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To: cll

Orlando/Orange county is deep blue. The Democratic candidate for sheriff got more than 40% of the vote despite being a felon arrested 13 times in the past 20 years. The winner was the former police chief who had been a Republican but did not register as a Democrat in time to be listed that way on the ballot as a Democrat. He was “NPA”, no party affiliation. The only way he squeaked out a win was by name recognition.

Needless to say, virtually every Democrat carried the county.


36 posted on 11/08/2018 11:54:42 AM PST by DeFault User
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To: ChildOfThe60s; All

I have seen articles indicating that there was an increase of successful votes for Dems down ballot, especially in the Houston area. Perhaps some voters there have become more sympathetic to the global warming/mega storm/flood idea which, of course, our President denies.


37 posted on 11/08/2018 8:31:03 PM PST by gleeaikin
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