Skip to comments.Why the ACLU supported Trump scrapping rule on limiting guns for mentally ill
Posted on 11/10/2018 11:21:34 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
In February 2017, Trump repealed an Obama-era rule to strengthen the federal gun background check system after the 2012 shooting of 20 young students and six staff at Sandy Hook Elementary School in Newtown, Conn.
There are laws in the United States regarding the sale of weapons to some mentally ill individuals. It is unlawful to sell a firearm to a person who "has been adjudicated as a mental defective" or "has been committed to any mental institution."
Obama's regulation would also have required the Social Security Administration to send the names of some people unable to manage their disability benefits because of mental impairments to the criminal background check system database.
Those people, estimated to number around 75,000, could have been prevented from owning or purchasing a firearm and may have been forced to prove why they were competent enough to do so, opponents of the regulation argued.
Those opposed, not surprisingly, included the National Rifle Association. But on this particular issue, Trump also had backing from an organization usually highly critical of him: The American Civil Liberties Union.
In a blog post last year, the ACLU said that while it does not oppose gun control laws, those laws need to be be fair and not based on prejudice and stereotype.
To add innocent Americans to this criminal database because of a mental disability "is a disturbing trend," it said.
Democratic Senator Chris Murphy told the Associated Press he didn't know how he could explain to his constituents, including those in Newtown, that Congress was making it easier rather than harder for people with serious mental illness to have a gun.
"If you can't manage your own financial affairs, how can we expect that you're going to be a responsible steward of a dangerous, lethal firearm," Murphy said.
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The jokes keep on writing themselves as far as anti gun Democrats are concerned, eh?
The change Trump made had nothing to do with mental illness. It had to do with people who had a “Representative Payee”(RP) that had control of that person’s social security.
There are many reasons a person may have an RP. Mental deficiency is only one of them and any firearm restrictions that need to be placed on such people is handled by current law.
I’m not worrying about people who cannot balance their checkbooks.
I’m concerned about people who make their own mothers terrified in their own home or their neighbors who see animals killed by the psycho kid next door and the law doesn’t do a damned thing.
Lets start on the ones everybody agrees is nuts and leave the depressed vets alone.
Just out of curiosity:
How many mass killings have people with representative payees committed?
Sounds like Murphy disqualified just about every Democrat in government.
But what about the other issue in question? The mentally ill?
Im concerned about people who make their own mothers terrified in their own home or their neighbors who see animals killed by the psycho kid next door and the law doesnt do a damned thing.
Lets start on the ones everybody agrees is nuts...
Agreed. Not only due to practical necessity in saving lives and getting people help, but politically speaking: this issue may singlehandedly be halting the MAGA momentum and giving Democrats too easy of an issue to capitalize on.
And therein lies the problem. What are the exact criteria for deciding who exactly is "everybody agrees is nuts?"
Right now, 50% of the country is convinced that Trump is nuts. Should we take his guns away?
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probably because neo-liberalism has been declared a mental illness
Yeah...that didnt work out so well for the old guy in Maryland last week. Family calls the cops on him, cops force their way into his home and he ends up dead.
No process of adjudication for him. No subpoena, no hearing, no psych evaluation. Just a forced entry and a bullet or three...
And a very slippery slope to bury him on.
Wasn’t it specifically help with finances? But the commies will take anything that limits our Natural Rights.
You can’t be deprived of your constitutional rights without due process.
Not lawfully any way...
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