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Massive crater under Greenland’s ice points to climate-altering impact in the time of humans
ScienceMag.com ^ | Nov 14, 2018 | Paul Voosen

Posted on 11/14/2018 3:09:50 PM PST by ETL

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To: Sawdring
A big piece of the puzzle for Randall Carlson.

Who's Randall Carlson?

41 posted on 11/15/2018 6:30:07 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: Sawdring; zot; Interesting Times
A big piece of the puzzle for Randall Carlson.

Randall Carlson

Randall Carlson is an American architect, geological theorist, and anthropological theorist.

He is a proponent of the Younger Dryas impact hypothesis, and has theorized about the extinction of historical advanced human civilizations.

Carlson founded Sacred Geometry International, which focuses on a range of controversial theories and has a website and Facebook page.

Carlson’s theories have not been peer-reviewed or published in any scientific journals. He has appeared on the Joe Rogan Experience podcast multiple times, sometimes accompanying Graham Hancock, who promotes similar ideas.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Randall_Carlson
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Younger Dryas impact hypothesis

The Younger Dryas impact hypothesis or Clovis comet hypothesis originally proposed that a large air burst or earth impact of one or more comets initiated the Younger Dryas cold period about 12,900 BP calibrated (10,900 14C uncalibrated) years ago.[1][2][3]

The hypothesis has been contested by research showing that most of the conclusions cannot be repeated by other scientists, and criticized because of misinterpretation of data and the lack of confirmatory evidence.[4][5][6][7]

The current impact hypothesis states that the air burst(s) or impact(s) of a swarm of carbonaceous chondrites or comet fragments set areas of the North American continent on fire, causing the extinction of most of the megafauna in North America and the demise of the North American Clovis culture after the last glacial period.[8]

The Younger Dryas ice age lasted for about 1,200 years before the climate warmed again. This swarm is hypothesized to have exploded above or possibly on the Laurentide Ice Sheet in the region of the Great Lakes, though no impact crater has yet been identified and no physical model by which such a swarm could form or explode in the air has been proposed.

Nevertheless, the proponents suggest that it would be physically possible for such an air burst to have been similar to, but orders of magnitude larger than, the Tunguska event of 1908.

The hypothesis proposed that animal and human life in North America not directly killed by the blast or the resulting coast-to-coast wildfires would have likely starved on the burned surface of the continent.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Younger_Dryas_impact_hypothesis

42 posted on 11/15/2018 6:35:41 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: fruser1
given the fact that ice ages only make up about 25% of earth’s geologic history

I think it's closer to 10-13%. But, still, assuming that's anywhere near true, it's a lot more than I would have guessed.

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The history of ice on Earth

Michael Marshall, May 2010

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Snowball Earth
2.4 to 2.1 billion years ago

The Huronian glaciation is the oldest ice age we know about. The Earth was just over 2 billion years old, and home only to unicellular life-forms.

The early stages of the Huronian, from 2.4 to 2.3 billion years ago, seem to have been particularly severe, with the entire planet frozen over in the first “snowball Earth”. This may have been triggered by a 250-million-year lull in volcanic activity, which would have meant less carbon dioxide being pumped into the atmosphere, and a reduced greenhouse effect.

Deep freeze
850 to 630 million years ago

During the 200 million years of the Cryogenian period, the Earth was plunged into some of the deepest cold it has ever experienced – and the emergence of complex life may have caused it.

One theory is that the glaciation was triggered by the evolution of large cells, and possibly also multicellular organisms, that sank to the seabed after dying. This would have sucked CO2 out of the atmosphere, weakening the greenhouse effect and thus lowering global temperatures.

There seem to have been two distinct Cryogenian ice ages: the so-called Sturtian glaciation between 750 and 700 million years ago, followed by the Varanger (or Marinoan) glaciation, 660 to 635 million years ago. There’s some evidence that Earth became a snowball at times during the big freezes, but researchers are still trying to work out exactly what happened.

Mass extinction
460 to 430 million years ago

Straddling the late Ordovician period and the early Silurian period, the Andean-Saharan ice age was marked by a mass extinction, the second most severe in Earth’s history.

The die-off was surpassed only by the gargantuan Permian extinction 250 million years ago. But as the ecosystem recovered after the freeze, it expanded, with land plants becoming common over the course of the Silurian period. And those plants may have caused the next great ice age.

Plants invade the land
360 to 260 million years ago

Like the Cryogenian glaciation, the Karoo ice age featured two peaks in ice cover that may well have been distinct ice ages. They took place in the Mississipian period, 359 to 318 million years ago, and again in the Pennsylvanian 318 to 299 million years ago.

These ice ages may have been the result of the expansion of land plants that followed the Cryogenian. As plants spread over the planet, they absorbed CO2 from the atmosphere and released oxygen (PDF). As a result CO2 levels fell and the greenhouse effect weakened, triggering an ice age.

There is some evidence that the ice came and went in regular cycles, driven by changes in Earth’s orbit. If true, this would mean that the Karoo ice age operated in much the same way as the current one.

Antarctica freezes over
14 million years ago

Antarctica wasn’t always a frozen wasteland. It wasn’t until around 34 million years ago that the first small glaciers formed on the tops of Antarctica’s mountains. And it was 20 million years later, when world-wide temperatures dropped by 8 °C, that the glaciers’ ice froze onto the rock, and the southern ice sheet was born.

This temperature drop was triggered by the rise of the Himalayas. As they grew higher they were exposed to increased weathering, which sucked CO2 out of the atmosphere and reduced the greenhouse effect.

The northern hemisphere remained relatively ice-free for longer, with Greenland and the Arctic becoming heavily glaciated only around 3.2 million years ago.

Latest advance of the ice
2.58 million years ago

The Quaternary glaciation started just a few million years ago – and is still going on. So its history is relatively recent, in geological terms, and can be studied in far more detail than the others’. It’s evident that the ice sheets have gone through multiple stages of growth and retreat over the course of the Quaternary.

During “glacial” stages, the temperature was low and ice extended far away from the poles. During “interglacials”, the temperature was somewhat warmer and the ice retreated. Brief, inconclusive periods of advancing ice – typically lasting less than 10,000 years – are called “stadials”; conversely, periods when the ice retreated, but only briefly, are called “interstadials”.

The main trigger for the Quaternary glaciation was the continuing fall in the level of CO2 in the atmosphere due to the weathering of the Himalayas. However, the timing of the glacials and interglacials was driven by periodic changes in Earth’s orbit that change the amount of sunshine reaching various parts of the planet. The effect of these small orbital changes was amplified by positive feedbacks, such as changes in greenhouse gas levels.

During the first two-thirds of the Quaternary, the ice advanced and retreated roughly every 41,000 years – the same tempo as the changes in the tilt of Earth’s axis. About a million years ago, the ice switched to a 100,000-year cycle for reasons that were until recently a mystery. Now more detailed information about the timing of the ice’s movements may have helped glaciologists find an answer.

To make matters more complicated still, the ice didn’t advance and retreat simultaneously all around the world. Often it would begin advancing on one continent, with the others only being covered thousands of years later, and then linger on a few continents several millennia after it had disappeared from the others.

So there were actually many overlapping glaciations within the Quaternary, each separately named: the Bavelian and Cromerian complexes of glacials and interglacials; the Elsterian glacial; the Holsteinian interglacial and the Saalian glaciation, among others.

Between 130,000 and 114,000 years ago, the ice retreated during the Eemian interglacial – and then advanced again to create the glacial that most people know as “the ice age”.

Our ice age
110,000 to 12,000 years ago

The cool temperatures of the Quaternary may have allowed our brains to become much larger than those of our of hominid ancestors. While that’s still open to debate, it’s plausible that the most recent glacial period left its mark on our species.

Neanderthals, with whom we shared the planet until just before the last glacial maximum, 20,000 years ago, may have struggled to survive as the rising and falling ice ate away at their habitat – although many other explanations for their extinction have been suggested. What is beyond doubt is that Homo sapiens survived and turned to farming soon after the ice retreated, setting the stage for the rise of modern civilisation.

As the glacial period drew to a close and temperatures began to rise, there were two final cold snaps. First, the chilly “Older Dryas” of 14,700 to 13,400 years ago transformed most of Europe from forest to tundra, like modern-day Siberia. After a brief respite, the Younger Dryas, between 12,800 to 11,500 years ago, froze Europe solid within a matter of months – probably as a result of meltwater from retreating glaciers shutting down the Atlantic Ocean’s “conveyor-belt” current, although a cometary impact has also been blamed.

Twelve thousand years ago, the great ice sheets retreated at the beginning of the latest interglacial – the Flandrian – allowing humans to return to northern latitudes. This period has been relatively warm, and the climate relatively stable, although it has been slightly colder than the last interglacial, the Eemian, and sea levels are currently at least 3 metres lower – differences that are being closely scrutinised by researchers keen to understand how our climate will develop.

But this respite from the ice is likely to prove short-lived, at least in geological terms. Human effects on the climate notwithstanding, the cycle will continue to turn, the hothouse period will some day come to an end – and the ice sheets will descend again.

https://www.newscientist.com/article/dn18949-the-history-of-ice-on-earth/

43 posted on 11/15/2018 6:58:36 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: fruser1

That link didn’t work, at least for me.

Here’s a good one...

Timeline of glaciation
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_glaciation


44 posted on 11/15/2018 7:00:41 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: ETL

Thx.

My link was from a mobile so, looking at it, there’s a “.m” in the URL that apparently messed it up for you. The one you have below is the same wiki page I attempted to link.


45 posted on 11/15/2018 7:24:58 AM PST by fruser1
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To: fruser1

Yes, I figured that. :)

Thanks.


46 posted on 11/15/2018 7:31:37 AM PST by ETL (Obama-Hillary, REAL Russia collusion! Uranium-One Deal, Missile Defense, Iran Deal, Nukes: Click ETL)
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To: csvset

Some guy named Watha lived there and someone greeted him.


47 posted on 11/15/2018 8:45:52 AM PST by Andyman (The truth shall make you FReep.)
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To: ETL

Thanks for the info at post #42.


48 posted on 11/15/2018 8:48:04 AM PST by zot
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To: Mr. K
Until human-driven global warming set in

Yep. They had to get that in there. Take a fascinating subject and contaminate it with BS politics. Sometimes I just want to throw up on the floor.
49 posted on 11/15/2018 9:17:29 AM PST by PA Engineer (Liberate America from the Occupation Media.)
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To: ETL
Randall on Rogan's podcast.
50 posted on 11/15/2018 10:48:58 AM PST by Sawdring
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To: SunkenCiv
Why would it be such a coincidence that this impact happened at the time of the Younger Dryas? I can't remember how many 500 year weather events have happened in my lifetime.

That said, it looks like a lot of work remains to be done to research this crater.

51 posted on 11/15/2018 12:23:28 PM PST by colorado tanker
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To: colorado tanker
:') Some days it sure does feel like 500 years, eh? ;^) It does date that way, there's an explanation of how that was figured out (has to do with the way the "splash" is distributed when there's a big impact on ice).

52 posted on 11/15/2018 9:34:48 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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A collection of links to related FR topics:

53 posted on 12/14/2018 9:50:57 PM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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