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Are the Laws of the Universe Fine-Tuned for Life?
Discover ^ | November 12, 2018 | Korey Haynes

Posted on 11/15/2018 5:19:25 AM PST by Heartlander

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To: PeterPrinciple

Any explanation for existence runs into logical problems, so I find your objection boring.

And your use of caps lock ruins any desire I have to take you seriously.


41 posted on 11/15/2018 8:55:14 AM PST by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: jonno

Not a kook.

I like to think of myself as a Christian Intellectual in the mold of Saint Augustine of Hippo. Not afraid of science and I believe God is the Perfect Architect and Designer, and science is the tool He uses to create things.

The idea of God ‘snapping his fingers” to “Hocus-Pocus” something into existence is a child’s thinking.

Note that the Bible doesn’t give us God’s exact recipe for anything he created, even man is raised from dust and breathed into, but what kind of dust, how the air was breathed, all remain not described. Science tells us how.

When one uses their mind/soul/spirit (which was made in God’s image) to examine creation one realizes that the Laws of the Universe; physics, botany, biology, astronomy, chemistry, etc., are ALL God’s laws and ways! And yes, even evolution, although many think that only Atheists believe the evolutionary process of life on Earth, but it is actually God’s method, not some totally random long series of events.

Imagine a master billards player, who, before taking the first shot and breaking the triangle, called every ball and every pocket, and then just did so.

Such is God’s use of his tools to create life.


42 posted on 11/15/2018 9:46:44 AM PST by Alas Babylon! (Boycott ABC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC and NBC!)
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To: Heartlander
But stare into that darkness long enough, and many wonder instead: how did we get here?

There's a Book about that. It starts off "In the beginning..."

43 posted on 11/15/2018 10:05:43 AM PST by JimRed ( TERM LIMITS, NOW! Build the Wall Faster! TRUTH is the new HATE SPEECH.)
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To: newfreep

OK,

How about a Sun Dial?


44 posted on 11/15/2018 10:06:08 AM PST by Scrambler Bob (You know that I am full of /S)
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To: Scrambler Bob

You really need to stop digging your hole deeper.


45 posted on 11/15/2018 11:03:19 AM PST by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" @HOROWITZ39, DAVID HOROWITZ)
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To: freedomjusticeruleoflaw

One of my old physics professors argued that life on earth wouldn’t exist if ice wasn’t less dense than water. I believe that’s not true of any other element regarding their solid versus liquid states.


46 posted on 11/15/2018 11:05:57 AM PST by McGarrett (Book'em Danno)
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To: NTHockey

“How incredibly egotistical of humans to believe that the Universe was created just for our benefit.”

Egotistical? Or is it *thankful*?


47 posted on 11/15/2018 2:17:20 PM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: Raycpa

Amen to that


48 posted on 11/15/2018 3:04:22 PM PST by SirLurkedalot (10/10/51-7/7/16 RIP Dad, I'll be missing you until I cross over to Eternity)
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To: newfreep

Fred Hoyle said it’s like a tornado forming a working 747 as it passed through a junkyard.

400+ amino acids linked in perfect order to form the simplest protien required for organic life. Random? That’s mathematically impossible.

But meanwhile, Luke 18:9-14 is where I want my heart at.


49 posted on 11/15/2018 3:17:52 PM PST by SirLurkedalot (10/10/51-7/7/16 RIP Dad, I'll be missing you until I cross over to Eternity)
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To: Raycpa
👍
50 posted on 11/15/2018 3:20:33 PM PST by SirLurkedalot (10/10/51-7/7/16 RIP Dad, I'll be missing you until I cross over to Eternity)
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To: Alas Babylon!

I like your attitude.

Whether the universe is billions of years old or merely thousands it doesn’t really matter. God did it all either way. He still sits on the throne regardless.


51 posted on 11/15/2018 3:24:13 PM PST by SirLurkedalot (10/10/51-7/7/16 RIP Dad, I'll be missing you until I cross over to Eternity)
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To: Alas Babylon!

Agreed.


52 posted on 11/15/2018 3:36:07 PM PST by jonno (Having an opinion is not the same as having the answer...)
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To: SirLurkedalot
EXCELLENT reference for life!!!

Luke 18:14 “I tell you that this man, rather than the other, went home justified before God. For all those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.”

53 posted on 11/15/2018 3:37:09 PM PST by newfreep ("INSIDE EVERY PROGRESSIVE IS A TOTALITARIAN SCREAMING TO GET OUT" @HOROWITZ39, DAVID HOROWITZ)
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To: newfreep

To be honest, I had to hit up Google for the exact chapter and verses. I’m pretty good with the overview but I’m terrible with “chapter & verse” style quotation.


54 posted on 11/15/2018 4:04:41 PM PST by SirLurkedalot (10/10/51-7/7/16 RIP Dad, I'll be missing you until I cross over to Eternity)
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Is life consistent with the Laws of the Universe? Well, duh.

The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes: Flood, Fire, and Famine in the History of Civilization
The Cycle of Cosmic Catastrophes:
Flood, Fire, and Famine
in the History of Civilization

by Richard Firestone,
Allen West, and
Simon Warwick-Smith


55 posted on 11/18/2018 11:19:57 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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Is life consistent with the Laws of the Universe? Well, duh.



56 posted on 11/18/2018 11:20:43 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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57 posted on 11/18/2018 11:20:49 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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Is life consistent with the Laws of the Universe? Well, duh.

58 posted on 11/18/2018 11:20:51 AM PST by SunkenCiv (and btw -- https://www.gofundme.com/for-rotator-cuff-repair-surgery)
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To: SunkenCiv
After 60 years of reading, mainly about life on earth mainly human, I have come to the conclusion that modern people don't fit.

If you look at life on earth over time it seems to follow a pattern: Things evolve to fit a nitch they stay in that nitch until something replaces them in that nitch. It does not seem to deviate from that pattern even among our supposed precursors.

Our supposed ancestors fit the former rather than the latter, we advanced more in the 10k years after the Younger Dryas than any creature that has inhabited this ever.

59 posted on 11/18/2018 12:05:38 PM PST by Little Bill (VN 65 - 68)
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To: Heartlander; Moonman62; SunkenCiv

If we assume that String Theory (ST) gives a good description then the question is related to the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/String_theory_landscape The number of theoretically allowed vacua (universes) is extremely large and that is one of the arguments against ST; the issue is to find ways to exclude as many as possible and to find relationships between different parameters so even more are excluded.

If this can be done and if we end up with only one universe then we are done. If there are more than one then there are different possible universes and then the question arise which of the suggested vacua that can give rise to life. The mathematics in ST is quite hard, so it will take some time until there is a solution. That is an argument against studying ST, there are many other areas to study with a better probability to get something interesting.


60 posted on 11/18/2018 12:09:05 PM PST by AdmSmith (GCTGATATGTCTATGATTACTCAT)
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