I believe that Abraham was supposed to be in the 1800s BCE and the Sumerians were before 2000 BCE, thus living well before the fact. The Minoan civilization was taken out during the 1600’s BCE by the effects of Thera volcano. I also read an article in an old National Geographic about the search for a large meteor chunk (dinner table size) in southern Saudi Arabia. When it was found it was dated to a post Jesus date, and the Arabs said it came down to destroy a wicked city. Whenever anything goes wrong there are those who will say it is God’s judgement for wickedness. I seem to remember such comments for New Orleans and Katrina.
Abraham lived 175 years so that he spanned the years from 2000 BCE to the 1800’s. Dating techniques are not precise especially where high heat/radioactivity might have been involved. The dates of the Minoan Destruction are interesting since some have dated the Santorini explosion as late as 1450 BC or as early as 1700’s. The archeologists will have to argue over that one.
The Arabs might have been right about other “meteors” coming down to destroy a wicked city. Even Revelation mentions a great meteor that will come down and hit the oceans causing all loss of sea life and a great destruction of many of the world’s ships. There is also the matter of another object “Wormwood” that falls to Earth which has the affect of poisoning 1/3rd of the world’s fresh water.
So The Bible gives two prophecies of destructive meteors so it is not Biblically inaccurate to suggest that Sodom and Gommorah and the Mesopotamian cities might have been destroyed by them. Abraham was moved from Ur by his father and then from Haran by God somewhere just shy of the 2000BCE mark( to protect Abraham from what was coming) and would have died somewhere just shy of the early 1800’s. As dating is not a precise art and high heat and radioactivity might affect dating...there you go. Slide the “dating” slide rule 100-150 years back and forth as you will and the plausibility of dating many of these events and tying them together as being contemporary to each other become apparent.
The big hit in the Empty Quarter in Arabia... the folklore (which doesn't really use dates that much anyway, anywhere it is relied on) didn't pan out, but led to a search for the vanished town, which turned out to have faded and been abandoned due to economic reasons, and I think the book is, uh, around here somewhere, I'm drawing a blank on the name of the town. The big rock to which the demise had been attributed turns out to have fallen from the sky, which fits, but the era it fell and the terminal decline of the town turned out to be much different, alas.
Whenever anything goes wrong there are those who will say it is God’s judgement for wickedness. I seem to remember such comments for New Orleans and Katrina.
Considering how long I've been hanging around here, it's strange that I don't remember anything like that. I do remember the liberal [redacted characterization]s saying Florida deserved this or that hurricane because of the 2000 Gore fiasco, because there are demagogues who think President Bush (or any Republican all the way back to Abraham Lincoln) causes the hurricanes to get worse as soon as they're elected, even before they're sworn in.
The Akkadians, ancestors to the Assyrians, were Semitic people who adapted the Sumerians' cuneiform writing (which was a highly adaptable writing system, it impresses me no end that it was in use for 3000 years, and used for a lot of different and often unrelated languages, about the length of time alphabetic script has been in use (though it didn't really catch on right away). The Sumerians seem to have just faded away, probably more a birthrate thing, as they were no less warlike than the Akkadians, and the Akkadians seem to have admired a lot of their culture, which they borrowed.
from earlier: At Platanos on Crete, a seal of the Hammurabi type was discovered in a tomb together with Middle Minoan pottery of a kind associated at other sites with objects of the Twelfth Egyptian Dynasty, more exactly, of its earlier part. This is regarded as proof that these two dynasties were contemporaneous... however... At Mari on the central Euphrates, among other rich material, a cuneiform tablet was found which established that Hammurabi of Babylonia and King Shamshi-Adad I of Assyria were contemporaries. An oath was sworn by the life of these two kings in the tenth year of Hammurabi, The finds at Mari "proved conclusively that Hammurabi came to the throne in Babylonia after the accession of Shamshi-Adad I in Assyria"... The Khorsabad list ends in the tenth year of Assur-Nerari V, which is computed to have been -745... the first year of Shamshi-Adad is calculated to have been -1726 and his last year -1694... it reduced the time of Hammurabi from the twenty-first century to the beginning of the seventeenth century... "a puzzling chronological discrepancy", which could only be resolved by making Hammurabi later than Amenemhet I of the Twelfth Dynasty..
In the days before find after find eroded away the conventional pseudochronology, there were said to have been three Sargons -- Sargon the Great of Akkad, Sargon I, and Sargon II. Turned out one of them was a phantom living in the imaginary ghost centuries. The old classic by Roux, I think it was, shows the three of them.
There is no connection between the quite fictional supereruption of Thera in the mid-2nd m BC and Minoan decline, and the proposed redatings by Manning et al make that particular idea even less tenable, as the supposed eruption antedates by nearly 200 years the burning and/or sacking that ended the palatial period. That would mean that the alleged eruption had literally no effect at all on the Minoans, which is mighty hard to explain. Also difficult for the eruptologists is that the purported tsunami -- which is unattested, despite straw-clutching claims -- would have been pointed at mainland Greece, and, bupkis. It was the Mycenaean Greeks who came over and pulverized then replaced the Minoans.
I believe that Abraham was supposed to be in the 1800s BCE and the Sumerians were before 2000 BCE.>>>>>>>>>>
That is correct. The bible describes Sodom and Gomorrah as an incident from antiquity. The Jewish nation had not been even formed and the followers of Jehovah were in nascent stages, a minority within a larger pagan matrix.
The Sumerians recorded the event in their clay tablets , describing a war between the gods of heaven ( Anunaki) and the gods of earth ( Marduk et al). According to the story The Earth gods lost that battle and had to abandon the earth
and the civilizations they supported. Only Egypt and Babylon
survived with the memories of Marduk intact. It is after these gods abandoned the earth that the Supreme being Yaweh exercised a dominion over the entire world, and the Jewish culture solidified into the deep tradition we know of today.
The Sumerian legends say that 7 devices were dropped throughout the ME, destroying the human city/civilizations established by Marduk and his fellow gods, both male and female. They fled the earth, and some say one day they will return. Lets hope not, they have nothing but enslavement for humankind. Some today say that Allah is a remnant of the god Marduk and his entourage, not to be confused with Yaweh in any way, who is completely separate altogether.
Annunaki ( Igigi) : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anunnaki
Marduk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marduk
Images of the Wahba Crater:
http://www.pbase.com/adnan_masood/wahba_crater
‘The Wahba Crater, largest of its kind in Middle east, is a spectacular and impressive site. The crater is approx. 2.5 km wide, and the cliffs drop steeply 270 meters to a flat base, in the centre of which is a huge salt pan. There has been much speculation as to the origin of crater. It is not known whether the crater was formed by a meteorite impact or by volcanic activity, in the form of an underground explosion. ‘