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Paradise regained? Experts call for European approach to US housing [tasteless; CA wildfires]
Agence France-Presse ^ | 21 Nov 2018

Posted on 11/22/2018 8:38:36 PM PST by Olog-hai

With the embers still raining from blackened skies choked by California’s massive wildfires, the effort turns to rebuilding Paradise — a town of almost 30,000 that was wiped off the map.

But experts warn that with megafires the new normal in a warming global climate, housing in the western United States is going to need a revolutionary rethink along the lines of villages dotting Europe’s wooded slopes.

“I think people are thinking about if there is a way we can design the new Paradise that can look like more of a European village or a ski town, and not have houses out in the forests,” said Bill Stewart, co-director of the Center for Forestry at the University of California, Berkeley.

Stewart suggests the approach seen in the Pyrenées mountains straddling France and Spain — villages surrounded by pastures with the forest further beyond — may be the model for California’s future. “It would be a lot safer if we didn’t have people basically living in the fuel,” he told AFP.

The death toll in and around Paradise — in the tinder-dry northern foothills of the Sierra Nevada Mountains — stands at 81, with hundreds still missing and more than 12,600 homes destroyed since the giant Camp Fire broke out on November 8.

Climate change, poor management of forests by the US government and sharp increases in housing in the woods have all made such megafires more likely and more deadly, said Stewart. …

(Excerpt) Read more at afp.com ...


TOPICS: Local News; Weather
KEYWORDS: afp; antiamericanism; billstewart; california; campfire; climatechange; climatechangehoax; eussr; experts; foryourowngood; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; stewart; ucberkeley; wildfires
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The last thing needed is to be dictated to by a Berkeley hack.
1 posted on 11/22/2018 8:38:36 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

that can look like more of a European village or a ski town,
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And attract the rich at a price current residents cannot afford.


2 posted on 11/22/2018 8:40:53 PM PST by Scrambler Bob (You know that I am full of /S)
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To: Olog-hai

Good, Good, Good, ..... I hope it rains so hard the Spotted Owl ends up purchasing a Bongo-Board!


3 posted on 11/22/2018 8:55:59 PM PST by EnglishOnly (Fight all out to win OR get out now. .)
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To: Olog-hai
“It would be a lot safer if we didn’t have people basically living in the fuel,” he told AFP.

It would be a lot safer if the brush fuel were CLEARED like it should've been.

4 posted on 11/22/2018 8:57:46 PM PST by Mr. Mojo
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It would be a lot safer if the brush fuel were CLEARED like it should’ve been.
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it’s my understanding that the state blatantly misappropriated the funds raised through fees and taxes expressly for fire mitigation and forest management and spent the money on bull**** gimme dat projects and/or filled their own and cronies pockets with the money.

If that’s even close to truth, every state legislator and manager in the state level forestry service should be hanging right next to the gov in a nice row of rotting human garbage.


5 posted on 11/22/2018 9:02:19 PM PST by Grimmy (equivocation is but the first step along the road to capitulation)
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To: Olog-hai

We need to concentrate the peasants into confined areas so we can round them up when the time comes.


6 posted on 11/22/2018 9:16:26 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Democracy dies when Democrats refuse to accept the result of a democratic election they didn't win.)
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To: Olog-hai

It will be dictated by insurance companies.


7 posted on 11/22/2018 9:19:39 PM PST by lastchance (Credo.)
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To: Scrambler Bob

The difference there in Europe is it rains all the time
Cal doesn’t ever have rain for 6-7 months a year every year
That’s the problem. Not living in the forest
We have redwood trees. They don’t burn and don’t have underbrush
Try setting a forest on fire on the east coast. Nothing will happen


8 posted on 11/22/2018 9:26:00 PM PST by Truthoverpower (The guvmint you get is the Trump winning express !)
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To: Olog-hai

Or they could build fire breaks.


9 posted on 11/22/2018 9:29:41 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Every time a lefty cries "racism", a Trump voter gets his wings.)
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To: Truthoverpower

Yep. Europe has at least twice the average precip of CA.


10 posted on 11/22/2018 9:33:58 PM PST by jjotto (Next week, BOOM!, for sure!)
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#8. Now I understand the song “It Never Rains in California”.

However, there is something called the Pacific Ocean right next to California and surprisingly, it has a shitload of water that could be desalinated and used for various projects in the state.

“Forget it Jake, it’s Chinatown and the farmers nearby don’t need no stinkin’ water”. Just ask the 40,000 or so farmers the Dems tried to destroy in Rep. Devin Nunes’ district.

California’s new slogan for newcomers - “If any forest care program is run by Democrats, it will burn”.


11 posted on 11/22/2018 10:17:42 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: Jeff Chandler

Isn’t the surrounding pasture to serve as a fire break?


12 posted on 11/22/2018 10:33:34 PM PST by Blooms in CA
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To: Olog-hai

Or, you could just manage your forests by not allowing undergrowth to build for a century. But but but global warming.


13 posted on 11/22/2018 10:41:48 PM PST by DaxtonBrown
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To: Olog-hai
HEre is a good example of Europe 'housing'

Fire proof cement and very neighborly


14 posted on 11/22/2018 11:24:44 PM PST by ASOC (Having humility really means one is rarely humiliated)
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To: ASOC

The most democratic housing, comrade.


15 posted on 11/23/2018 12:00:19 AM PST by fluorescence
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To: fluorescence

Only the best for the People of the Rodinya....


16 posted on 11/23/2018 12:12:31 AM PST by ASOC (Having humility really means one is rarely humiliated)
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To: Scrambler Bob

““I think people are thinking about if there is a way we can design the new Paradise that can look like more of a European village or a ski town, and not have houses out in the forests,”

This has been the goal all along of the hard greens. Let the forests go and burn humans out of them. Move them into sensible high rise housing, managed by sensible greens.


17 posted on 11/23/2018 12:22:11 AM PST by ModelBreaker
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To: Olog-hai

>>But experts warn that with megafires the new normal

50 years is new?

Been ignored for decades so much that it is seasonal and some of the raging fires are sparked by arson (including those in forestry) or accidents from illegal immigrant camps.


18 posted on 11/23/2018 1:20:32 AM PST by a fool in paradise (Denounce DUAC - The Democrats Un-American Activists Committtee)
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" But experts warn that with megafires the new normal in a warming global climate..."

Wild fires have burned less area for some time. Fake News

19 posted on 11/23/2018 4:02:08 AM PST by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches us anything.)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Just like Aspen and Breckinridge.


20 posted on 11/23/2018 5:09:53 AM PST by Oldexpat (Jobs Not Mobs)
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