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Aged 97, survivor looks back on Stalin-era Ukraine famine
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| Nov 23, 2018
Posted on 11/23/2018 11:57:49 AM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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Stalin ordered the requisition of Ukrainian grain harvests in the 1930s as part of his economic planning for the Soviet Union AFP/SERGEI SUPINSKY
To: CondoleezzaProtege
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posted on
11/23/2018 12:09:23 PM PST
by
gattaca
("Government's first duty is to protect the people, not run their lives." Ronald Reagan)
To: CondoleezzaProtege
Horrors are the sweet spot of where socialism ultimately leads to. Even the self proclaimed kind and tolerant Leftist in the West are at present riddled with talk of doing something about us Deplorables.
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posted on
11/23/2018 12:12:50 PM PST
by
Rurudyne
(Standup Philosopher)
To: CondoleezzaProtege
The Dems can’t wait. They’re rubbing their hands with glee...
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posted on
11/23/2018 12:14:14 PM PST
by
moovova
To: CondoleezzaProtege
Idiot progressives thinking ‘communism works’ should take a long hard look at the numbers of people starved to death by the ‘socialist ilk’.... We're talking millions and long before Cubans and Venezuelans would go ‘hungry’ for months at a time.
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posted on
11/23/2018 12:17:49 PM PST
by
GOPJ
(Watch this for our survival: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE)
To: NFHale
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posted on
11/23/2018 12:20:15 PM PST
by
DuncanWaring
(The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
To: CondoleezzaProtege
If this woman was considered ‘class unfriendly’ or from the family of a ‘kulak’ Yegor Kryvenko,was more than a humane person. He was literally risking his life taking this girl in and taking a couple pounds of flour (frequently the flour that fell on the mill floor during the sloppy bagging process) than he was committing another capital offense in ‘stealing socialist property’. Unless one was a Jew and even then the remarabvle number of half or sometimes full Jews that served in the Nazi armed forces (Air Marshall Milch being the highest ranked but also three full army generals) seems to indicate in the Reich but not in the OST Lands even being a Jew was a lot more pleasant than being a regular Soviet citizen at least in the western USSR during Stalin time. I suppose that was Stalin’s goal to make life so harsh and psycho that even war was preferable. As Joseph V said circa 1942, ‘Being a coward today in the Soviet Union is more dangerous than being a hero.’ Words to ponder.
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posted on
11/23/2018 12:21:54 PM PST
by
robowombat
(Orthodox)
To: CondoleezzaProtege
Stalin deliberately set out to perform genocide on the Ukrainian people, through starvation, and got away with it.
His ally, Hitler, then decided that he could get away with genocide too.
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posted on
11/23/2018 12:29:22 PM PST
by
SauronOfMordor
(Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
To: GOPJ
Travel agents are missing a golden opportunity. Travel agencies should be offering thirty day tours to Venezuela guaranteed to lose twenty or more pounds.
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posted on
11/23/2018 12:33:58 PM PST
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monocle
To: monocle
Good idea - special ‘deals’ for progressives...
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posted on
11/23/2018 12:40:23 PM PST
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GOPJ
(Watch this for our survival: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPjzfGChGlE)
To: CondoleezzaProtege
Jewish leaders hate the word Holodomer because I believe Jews made up 60% of the Russia State. Later many people died. Worshipping the State has bad consequences. We all want to be seen as spotless victims. We all want our narriative to be believed.
Wait until our U.S deep state gets unleashed.
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posted on
11/23/2018 12:48:14 PM PST
by
TheNext
(Participation Award Winner = CoC)
To: monocle
Or a “Power Walk’’ all the way from Sunny Honduras to the US border.
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posted on
11/23/2018 1:00:33 PM PST
by
jmacusa
(Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
To: CondoleezzaProtege
And it was at the height of this horror that Walter Duranty of The NY Slimes was writing how great a guy Old Joe was.
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posted on
11/23/2018 1:01:49 PM PST
by
jmacusa
(Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
To: CondoleezzaProtege
But, first, they came and took away all the firearms...
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“They came and took away all our grain...”
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posted on
11/23/2018 1:10:26 PM PST
by
2banana
(Were you)
To: SauronOfMordor
And....Liberal journalists in the West helped him.
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posted on
11/23/2018 1:22:42 PM PST
by
Thumper1960
(Trump-2020)
To: CondoleezzaProtege
The Soviet Story[bitchute video]Written and directed by Edvīns nore (2008), this is the unsanitized story of Soviet Communism and Soviet-German collaboration prior to 1941. The film features interviews with Western and Russian historians including Norman Davies and Boris Sokolov, Russian writer Viktor Suvorov, Soviet dissident Vladimir Bukovsky, members of the European Parliament and participants, as well as survivors of the rampaging, bloodlusted Soviet terror machine. "Only by understanding the genocides of the past, can we hope to prevent others from occurring in our lifetime." - The Soviet Story
It seems that Youtube and others are censoring this video. I wonder why? /s
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posted on
11/23/2018 1:25:02 PM PST
by
Electric Graffiti
(Cocked, locked and ready to ROCK!)
To: SauronOfMordor
Stalin deliberately set out to perform genocide on the Ukrainian people, through starvation, and got away with it. His ally, Hitler, then decided that he could get away with genocide too.
And beginning in 1943, the communist henchmen of FDR started the same genocidal programs in the USA, all the way up to December 1941.
The Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor on Dec 7, 1941 changed their plans. From the satanic Democrat point of view, war could eliminate excess population just as well as starvation.
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posted on
11/23/2018 1:42:36 PM PST
by
meadsjn
To: SauronOfMordor
There was another famine in Kazakhstan in 1932, where 1.5 million died Kazakhs died from collectivizatation and forced settlement of nomads - around 38% of the Kazakh, more in percentage terms than the Ukrainians.
They were reduced to a minority in their homeland - although due to migration and different birthrates they again outnumber ethnic Russians there.
Isn’t it strange that at the time we allied with the USSR in WWII, the Soviet regime had already killed a hundred times as many people as the Nazis had? 5-6 million, compared to tens of thousands?
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posted on
11/23/2018 1:59:27 PM PST
by
heartwood
(Someone has to play devil's advocate.)
To: 2banana
Right. Someone -— was it Solzhenitsyn? -—remarked that, just 20 years earlier, the Armenian Genocide proved that you don’t need gas chambers, tanks, crematoria etc. to commit genocide. You just need a few soldiers willing to make people march into the wilderness without food or water until they dropped. That -— and an unarmed populace.
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posted on
11/23/2018 2:03:24 PM PST
by
Mrs. Don-o
(The rifle in the cottage is the symbol of democracy. It's our job to see that it stays there. Orwell)
To: CondoleezzaProtege
I hated the Ukrainians for years due to them siding with the Nazis in WWII. I did further reading and found out why they did. Their choice was to support the Germans and they might live or get starved to death by Stalin. Gives one a better appreciation of our country that we’ll never be faced with any decision like that, unless we let the the goofy socialists take over everything important. I honestly don’t know what I would have done if I were a Ukrainian at that time.
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