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Democrat Kamala Harris could lose seat on Senate Judiciary Committee, report says
Fox News ^ | 11/26/18 | Dom Calicchio

Posted on 11/25/2018 11:53:52 PM PST by LoicW

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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Congress can change immigration laws, but Congress can’t delete the natural born citizenship requirement.

That would require amending the Constitution.


21 posted on 11/26/2018 5:05:19 AM PST by odawg
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To: LoicW

This ‘lady’ is nuts. Did you know she’s proposing a $500/month tax credit?

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/kamala-harris-amid-2020-rumors-floats-500-a-month-tax-credit


22 posted on 11/26/2018 5:21:37 AM PST by upchuck (When hatred of culture becomes itself a part of culture, the life of the mind loses all meaning.)
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To: odawg
"Congress can change immigration laws, but Congress can’t delete the natural born citizenship requirement."

I would agree. My point was our argument should center on what the definition is of 'Natural Born Citizen'. The argument should be that the founders original intent was that citizenship rested on the parent's citizenship and not the place where you are born. This is also why John McCain was a natural born citizen even though he was born in the Panama Canal Zone.

The difficult part of this argument and one that has to go into some detail is the 14th amendment. It says that all persons born or naturalized in the United States are citizens. So it makes a distinction between a naturalized citizen and one who is natural born (born here). However, we know from the writings at the time that this was specifically applying to the former freed slaves (the born part). For instance, the 14th amendment did not grant citizenship to native Americans. That came later. It's a very complex subject but yes I agree with you. A natural born citizen is one who is born of parents who are American.
23 posted on 11/26/2018 5:27:03 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: odawg
That is what the history professor taught us in college, but that was before it became racist to accept that.

No, your college history professor did not teach this. Nobody has ever been able to cite any textbook entry at any time that has ever used this definition of NBC.

24 posted on 11/26/2018 5:27:46 AM PST by Drew68 (Twitter @TheRealDrew68 // Click my profile page for great Russian pop music videos.)
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Birthers’ made-up definition of Natural Born Citizen will not impede Harris in the slightest should she decide to run.

So what is the correct definition? Can you state how she is fully credentialed to run for president? - besides being born in the United States.

25 posted on 11/26/2018 5:31:11 AM PST by atc23
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
The definition of the natural born as someone whose parents are citizens was violated by Barack Obama, whose stated father was a Kenyan, and over a century before by Chester Arthur, whose father was Irish. Ted Cruz, born in Canada of a Cuban father, was also ineligible, and so is Kamala Harris. But liberals. and many Republicans unfortunately, bend the rules. Furthermore. the precedent was set with Arthur and Obama.
26 posted on 11/26/2018 5:41:40 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: LoicW

By all means....make it happen.


27 posted on 11/26/2018 5:44:36 AM PST by ealgeone (SCRIPTURE DOES NOT CHANGE!)
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To: Wallace T.
"whose stated father was a Kenyan, and over a century before by Chester Arthur, whose father was Irish."

Damn that Chester Arthur!! I saw a show on him quite a while back. His detractors at the time not only brought up his fathers citizenship but apparently he was born in Vermont or so he said. There was a question as to that as well, some say he was born on the Canadian side, not in Vermont. Apparently where he was born is very close to the border.
28 posted on 11/26/2018 5:54:06 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: LoicW

Oh, no! What will Willie Brown’s ho do now?


29 posted on 11/26/2018 5:58:07 AM PST by KosmicKitty (Opportunities multiply as they are seized.)
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To: odawg

They can ignore the requirement, which is what they did to give us the Kenyanesian Usurpation.

They now think Precedent Obama has rendered the natural born citizen requirement moot.

As do a lot of freepers.


30 posted on 11/26/2018 6:31:19 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Natural born citizen means born here of citizen parents.

http://www.art2superpac.com/issues.html


31 posted on 11/26/2018 6:33:49 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

It’s really very simple.

If you can be something else, you are not naturally an American.

Foreign national parents bequeath foreign citizenship(s) to their children.

Anyone born with multiple nationalities is not naturally an American.

Natural born citizens have ONE nationality.
That’s why they are NATURALLY citizens.
They cannot possibly be anything else.


32 posted on 11/26/2018 6:40:04 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden
A Natural Born Citizen is the Posterity of We the People for whom the Constitution was ordained and established to protect.

Neither of Harris' parents were We the People, so their Posterity is not a Natural Born Citizen.

-PJ

33 posted on 11/26/2018 6:53:10 AM PST by Political Junkie Too (The 1st Amendment gives the People the right to a free press, not CNN the right to the 1st question.)
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To: LoicW

Very brave actions GOP, doing things that will be overturned next month when the Dems take over.

You were RINO’s for 2 years and you’re still RINO’s


34 posted on 11/26/2018 6:55:40 AM PST by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing Obamacare is worse than Obamacare itself.)
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

That came later. It’s a very complex subject but yes I agree with you. A natural born citizen is one who is born of parents who are American.

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You left off a key word..”Citizens”. To use it in a sentence, one might say, “A natural born citizen is one who is born of parents who are American citizens.”

No matter how many times she “willingly” drops her pants, she ain’t qualified.


35 posted on 11/26/2018 7:05:57 AM PST by AFret.
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"You left off a key word..”Citizens”"

You knew what I meant. I suppose if we really wanted to get technical we could say, A natural born citizen is one who is born of parents who are citizens of the United States of America. In other words, we could drop the American part also...
36 posted on 11/26/2018 7:16:38 AM PST by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: LoicW

Democrats shouldn’t be on any committee they have no idea what they are doing.


37 posted on 11/26/2018 7:38:45 AM PST by Vaduz (women and children to be impacIQ of chimpsted the most.)
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To: LoicW

Good. Neuter/spay as many Dems as possible in the next two years. DO IT!


38 posted on 11/26/2018 7:42:32 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin ( "Why can't you be more like Lloyd Braun?")
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To: Wallace T.

Wasn’t the judge hearing Pres. Arthur’s case appointed by him earlier in Arthur’s term? That was the ruling the dropped the ‘s’ from ‘parents’.


39 posted on 11/26/2018 8:41:53 AM PST by RideForever
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To: RideForever

As I recall no one was ever able to prove the case against Arthur as he went to considerable efforts to destroy all the evidence.
I do not know if it ever made it to court.


40 posted on 11/26/2018 9:37:24 AM PST by Lurkinanloomin (Natural Born Citizen Means Born Here of Citizen Parents__Know Islam, No Peace - No Islam, Know Peace)
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