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Apollo Conspiracy? NASA Invites Skeptic Steph Curry to See Moon-Landing Evidence
Space.com ^ | Mike Wall

Posted on 12/12/2018 8:24:03 AM PST by BenLurkin

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To: JBW1949

What we see in the sky is painted on backdrops like any studio has. Some god child has built a diorama and we are the display for their 3rd grade class project.


61 posted on 12/12/2018 3:51:01 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: minnesota_bound

LOL...I know what you are saying...

When I was a kid, I thought “What if...”

What if our universe was an atom inside a molecule of water inside a glass that a man was drinking, and HIS universe was an atome inside....

You know where I’m going...LOL


62 posted on 12/12/2018 3:57:28 PM PST by JBW1949 (I'm really PC....PATRIOTICALLY CORRECT!!!!)
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To: FLvoter
The Gemini (which had the initial traverses of the Van Allen regions) and Apollo flights were short-duration exposures. Today's missions are much longer duration. The ISS is orbited below the intense Van Allen zones for that reason. The Apollo lunar trajectories were also planned to avoid the intense regions.

Not a lot of people know, but the Van Allen "belts" are not continuous around the Earth. There are sections that are more intense than others, there are gaps and odd-shaped zones. Some of the regions are transient, and dissipate and re-form. The first penetration of the Van Allen regions by a manned spacecraft was Gemini 10, which made repeated traverses of the Southern Atlantic Magnetic Anomaly, which is a low-hanging swath of the inner Van Allen belts.

63 posted on 12/12/2018 4:26:37 PM PST by chimera
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To: BenLurkin
the boy gets paid to bounce a ball, not thinking...
64 posted on 12/12/2018 4:39:17 PM PST by Chode ( WeÂ’re America, Bitch!)
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To: Freedom4US

Its sad that NASA lost or destroyed their original high resolution tapes from. I think it would gave a resolved a lot of these doubts.

At the time of the first moon landing I was in Boy Scout camp. We were staff and between campers and we took the only one black and white TV on that side of the lake and we all sat around and watched as Neil Armstrong stepped on the moon. We cheered and clapped as he set down.

It was a hell of a trip planned by men with slide rules!


65 posted on 12/12/2018 4:40:48 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: chimera

That makes sense that some regions of the belts are less intense and that they change, dissipate and reform over time. But its said Apollo 11 was planned so as to go around the these more intense areas. So why cant they do that know? (They literally say they can’t accomplish it now). Also, I don’t understand what the duration of today’s missions have to do with it since no mission would spend any longer time in the belts than necessary.


66 posted on 12/12/2018 5:17:23 PM PST by FLvoter
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Huh?!?

NASA has hundreds, maybe thousands, of hours of archival quality color 16 mm film available to watch for free, it has been digitized and much of it on YouTube (ask me how I know) and in HD format, basically.


67 posted on 12/12/2018 5:24:09 PM PST by Freedom4US
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It was this; https://www.reuters.com/article/us-nasa-tapes/moon-landing-tapes-got-erased-nasa-admits-idUSTRE56F5MK20090716

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"...NASA admitted in 2006 that no one could find the original video recordings of the July 20, 1969, landing.

Since then, Richard Nafzger, an engineer at NASA’s Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland, who oversaw television processing at the ground-tracking sites during the Apollo 11 mission, has been looking for them.

The good news is he found where they went. The bad news is they were part of a batch of 200,000 tapes that were degaussed — magnetically erased — and re-used to save money.

“The goal was live TV,” Nafzger told a news conference.

“We should have had a historian running around saying ‘I don’t care if you are ever going to use them — we are going to keep them’,” he said.

They found good copies in the archives of CBS news and some recordings called kinescopes found in film vaults at Johnson Space Center.

Lowry, best known for restoring old Hollywood films, has been digitizing these along with some other bits and pieces to make a new rendering of the original landing."

68 posted on 12/12/2018 5:33:48 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: FLvoter
Maybe what they mean is that nobody has translunar capability any longer so we are stuck with Earth orbit missions. Those can either be below or above the Van Allen regions. If you need to go further out you can if you keep the time within the intense zones limited, which reduces total dose accumulated. If there is no reason to go way out there then you can do what you need to do in a low orbit, below the intense regions. Personnel on the ISS for example are planned to be there a long time and it would be unwise to have orbited the ISS within any of the stronger Van Allen zones.

If manned spaceflight beyond Earth orbit is ever resumed I'm sure the trajectories need to get them where they need to go will be planned to avoid the intense radiation regions, as was done for Apollo. That combined with the velocity required for Earth gravity escape (transit time through whatever radiation fields are present will be minimized by faster transit time) will keep exposures fairly low.

69 posted on 12/12/2018 6:35:07 PM PST by chimera
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission
I think you're talking about the original video of the first moonwalk as displayed at Honeysuckle Creek, Australia, where it was first received. Because of a different scan rate for displays used at the time, in order to broadcast the EVA live in the US over the networks, they had to point another video camera with the standard scan rate at the TV display in Australia, and that was why the broadcast quality was not particularly great. The original videotape from Honeysuckle Creek was likely taped over. I don't think that has anything to do with the nutters who claim the whole Apollo program was faked. Nobody at the time thought it was faked, for that matter. For them, no amount of evidence is enough.
70 posted on 12/14/2018 7:17:27 PM PST by Freedom4US
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To: Freedom4US

The erased tape was a shame. And yes, they walked on the moon.


71 posted on 12/14/2018 7:47:32 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

Well, it’s unfortunate I guess.

I’m watching historic tapes of CBS coverage of Apollo 8 with Uncle Walter, upon arrival to the moon they beamed the first live TV broadcast coverage of the moon and earth through the command module windows. It was pretty bad, basically a bright smudge on a grainy screen.

“LIVE PICTURE OF MOON FROM SPACECRAFT” I guess we had to take their word for it at the time.

I know they didn’t fake it, because it was so bad! “Bill, put the polarizer filter on....”. Uh-oh that’s worse. “OK Bill, take the polarizer off...” “Ok now move the camera a little to the left. No, your other left.... that’s it ... right there!!”

LOL


72 posted on 12/16/2018 8:31:50 AM PST by Freedom4US
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I know they didn’t fake it, because it was so bad! “Bill, put the polarizer filter on....”. Uh-oh that’s worse. “OK Bill, take the polarizer off...” “Ok now move the camera a little to the left. No, your other left.... that’s it ... right there!!”

No, the pictures were not very good, especially when viewed on a grainy TV with poor reception in the forests of northern Wisconsin.

It was like everyone's father taking movies in the 1960s! Adjust this, adjust that, get out of the light. Different times before auto adjust.

73 posted on 12/16/2018 9:18:40 AM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: Pete from Shawnee Mission

“It was like everyone’s father taking movies in the 1960s! Adjust this, adjust that, get out of the light. Different times before auto adjust.”

My uncle. Color film was expensive to buy and process. And apparently not very fast, I remember he had this rack of maybe 4 or 6 Big Ass Lights, that he carried around with the movie camera indoors, the old Christmas movies just show all of us kids squinting and holding our hands over our eyes. LOL, it would blind us temporarily I distinctly remember that. Everybody hated that thing.

Near as I can find, the Apollo 8 Christmas Eve broadcast was about 8:30 to 9 PM central standard time, just about the time our families would be at gramps place to open some presents. I’m pretty sure I vaguely recall we watched that, along with everybody else. I’ll have to ask my brother sometime, he would remember.


74 posted on 12/16/2018 9:14:12 PM PST by Freedom4US
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