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To: gaijin
I'm making this post because it seems there is some strange Suicide Impulse in Western Civ. We have come all this way, over eons, is this Thanatos instinct just something recent and WHY..? There must be some logical reason for this, can you help me..? I don't want to hear simply, "Play stupid games, win stupid prizes".

There are a myriad of reasons. I can think of a few but I'll focus on one.

The West has created a safe world for itself. People are largely removed from the historic past when outside forces were a legitimate threat; Vandal hoards looting and burning European villages.

People don't experience that stuff anymore and what most people don't experience for themselves doesn't exist.

The West has gotten comfortable and soft and many naively believe other people share our Western values.

Many naive people believe we no longer need castle walls, a moat, and a drawbridge for our protection.

The collective insanity called 'liberalism' has convinced many 'we're all the same. We're all interchangeable'.

9/11 should have been a reminder instead it had the opposite affect. Collective liberalism convinced many people WE were the problem.

And so, to make amends for our sins (racism, xenophobia, et al) WE have to change. WE have to be open and accommodating. WE have to be tolerant. et. al.

And yes, maybe the ultimate price we should have to pay for our 'crimes against humanity' is to commit suicide.

81 posted on 12/21/2018 5:53:10 PM PST by yesthatjallen
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To: yesthatjallen

Very thoughtful.

I consider your words there instructive, made me think.


85 posted on 12/21/2018 5:58:04 PM PST by gaijin
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To: yesthatjallen; gaijin

“There are a myriad of reasons. I can think of a few but I’ll focus on one.”

What always gnaws at me is the Norwegian mass killer in 2011. He shot up a “summer camp” full of young adults preparing to be the next generation of leaders in Norway (which is why he chose that target). What the hell is that? And what were they doing to ‘prepare’ this generation? What were they being taught and why was this camp even needed? And how many others are there throughout Europe and maybe also in the US?

I am not into conspiracy theories, but I really struggle to understand just what the purpose of an operation like that was for, if not for advancing the re-population of Europe.

Maybe I’m wrong, and instead they just learn sailing and archery, but then why did the killer go through all that effort to target them (including setting off a huge bomb in Oslo) and write his manifesto explaining in detail why he did what he did?


110 posted on 12/24/2018 5:18:43 AM PST by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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