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Xiaomi packs 48-megapixel camera into budget Redmi Note 7 phone
ZDnet ^ | January 11, 2019 | Liam Tung

Posted on 01/13/2019 3:46:32 PM PST by dennisw

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To: wally_bert

I think the days of the SLR are numbered. With digital there is no longer a reason for that big mirror flipping up and down.

Also leaving that big mirror box off will make them more compact. Probably back to the size of the old 1930s era Leicas.


21 posted on 01/13/2019 4:58:23 PM PST by yarddog
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To: SandwicheGuy

What the hell are you bitching about? Actually, don’t tell me, I really don’t care. Feel free, however, to enrich the chicoms, making them stronger, comrade. They already have practically everything our military uses through espionage and hardware manipulation... Let them, through your well informed purchases, muscle their way into our markets and into our personal lives as well. Maybe they won’t have to fire a shot...


22 posted on 01/13/2019 5:07:36 PM PST by Captainpaintball
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To: AF_Blue; MrEdd; 11Bush; EQAndyBuzz; AppyPappy; Political Junkie Too; GreenLanternCorps; ...

F&G Ping


23 posted on 01/13/2019 5:09:30 PM PST by kanawa (Trump Loves a Great Deal)
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To: dennisw

A huge pixel count lets you focus on getting _a_ picture, then cropping it to what you actually want later (and still have good resolution).


24 posted on 01/13/2019 5:13:41 PM PST by ctdonath2 (The Red Queen wasn't kidding.)
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To: aquila48

Who on Earth needs a Chinese spy phone in their hand?


25 posted on 01/13/2019 5:44:16 PM PST by montag813
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To: yarddog

Mine is mirror-less and smaller than the typical DSLR.

I agree about the DSLR is slowly going away.

I went with the GH4 because it was an affordable 4k body.


26 posted on 01/13/2019 6:02:56 PM PST by wally_bert (We're low on dimes in fun city.)
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To: montag813
Who in the world needs an NSA spyphone in their hand?

In related news, every USA carrier sells user real-time location data to "location aggregators". Read about it here.
27 posted on 01/13/2019 6:22:59 PM PST by vannrox (The Preamble to the Bill of Rights - without it, our Bill of Rights is meaningless!)
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To: Moonman62

High megapixel is a lot more than hype, it allows you to crop a picture severely. That means you don’t have to be a good photographer you just crop to get the picture you need or want.

Check out professional cameras and you will see they all have high megapixels and professional photographers are not taken in by hype.

Both Nikon and Canon have cameras in the same megapixel range. I have never heard a photographer complain that he had too many pixels.


28 posted on 01/13/2019 6:38:46 PM PST by JAKraig (my religion is at least as good as yours)
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To: montag813

You do know that most phones are made in China, right?

I don’t know what you use but you may want to check where it’s made.


29 posted on 01/13/2019 6:42:02 PM PST by aquila48
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To: PapaBear3625

The quality of the lens is key. 8 bits of dynamic range per color is more than enough. That’s 256 levels per color.


30 posted on 01/13/2019 6:45:17 PM PST by aquila48
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To: SandwicheGuy

Yep to all that!


31 posted on 01/13/2019 6:46:46 PM PST by aquila48
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To: JAKraig

Check out professional cameras and you will see they all have high megapixels and professional photographers are not taken in by hype.

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Sensors in professional cameras are more sensitive to light, have higher dynamic range, less noise and more surface area than sensors in cheaper non-professional cameras. Professionals also put very expensive lenses in front of those sensors.

You’re a perfect example of the consumer that falls for the megapixel hype.


32 posted on 01/13/2019 7:46:39 PM PST by Moonman62 (Give a man a fish and he'll be a Democrat. Teach a man to fish and he'll be a responsible citizen.)
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To: dennisw

Apple has the iPhones, China has the iSpy phones.


33 posted on 01/13/2019 7:56:24 PM PST by adorno
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To: PAR35

“It is rear facing.”

So it takes 48-megapixel pictures of your rear?


34 posted on 01/13/2019 8:29:23 PM PST by neverevergiveup
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To: Alas Babylon!

#9 Inside trees by Oompa loompas.


35 posted on 01/13/2019 8:31:31 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: dennisw

Apple and Samsung are gonna lose their customers if smartphones can be bought for under $200 while they sell theirs for $1,000


36 posted on 01/13/2019 8:33:55 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: dennisw
There is zero purpose in having a 48 megapixel camera unless you are intending to blow-up you photograph to an extremely large size. None. It’s pure marketing hype.

The way they "pack in" that many photo receptors is by making them four times smaller than the photo-recptors in a 12 megapixel camera. . . Which meany that unless they have some magical way of multiplying light, four times less light will fall on each pixel to trigger it to release electrons or allow them to pass. There are only two ways to do that, bigger lenses, or fewer lens surfaces (each of which absorbs some light) for image light to pass through. Each correcting lens adds two surfaces. . . as does the cover lens.

So, if you are interested in printing 36” x 22" billboards at ~300 DPI at the perfect resolution of an 8x10, then you might want a 48 mp camera, but then you want one with a huge CCD with full size light receptors you’d field in a DIGITAL SLR, not the itty-bitty ones you can stick in the miniature camera a cellular phone has room to allow. . . so the user can take selfies to post on a 6" screen.

37 posted on 01/13/2019 8:43:38 PM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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To: dennisw

I have a 12-Megapixel iPhone 7+ and a 10.2-Megapixel Nikon D80. The Nikon takes better pictures, especially when comparing optical zoom vs. digital zoom.


38 posted on 01/13/2019 8:50:38 PM PST by PLMerite ("They say that we were Cold Warriors. Yes, and a bloody good show, too." - Robert Conquest)
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To: JAKraig

It is sensor size that matters.
https://newatlas.com/camera-sensor-size-guide/26684/

Full frame is the size of 35mm film.
Much more detail. The size in the cellphone cameras are about the size of your pinky nail. Larger camera lens brings in more light plus are better lenses. The cameras software also makes taking great photos easy.

Here is a photo I took Dec 24, 2018 from the 2nd floor window looking out at a water feature in front of the building I work at. http://davidswebsite.com/pond/pond.jpg
I used a 5 year old LG-G3 which has the specs of a Samsung S8. Not bad but looked at full size and it is awful. Make smaller and it starts to look good. A full frame camera would be sharp at full size.

The cellphone cameras can take real good close up photos of objects but anything 10ft away will start to show the raggedness of the poor resolution you get with a small lens and sensor.
http://davidswebsite.com/pond/pond.jpg


39 posted on 01/13/2019 9:21:53 PM PST by minnesota_bound
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To: JAKraig; minnesota_bound

Minnesota is absolutely correct. . . You can also control for depth of field and f-stop on a dedicated camera far better than on any phone camera.

The designers and makers can only do so much with the tiny package they can fit into the space available in a phone with all the other components. Adding extra cameras can help by doubling light collection and superimposing one image on another or bracketing exposures to get the best picture via software (HDR), but those are kludges when a DSLR has no space or size compromises to cause the need for all this software approximation.


40 posted on 01/13/2019 9:43:46 PM PST by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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