True, I don't know what happened before. I do know some basics about self defense under the law. Also that avoiding fights means you don't risk getting arrested or prosecuted, because District Attorneys don't care how justified a person feels about decking someone. Those kids are citizens with rights too. A bunch of kids being noisy outside a mall is a nuisance, not a threat to life or limb. He and has family could have gone back inside and called security or management, or waited a few minutes until those kids parents showed up, moved on or calmed down. Or maybe, just walked through them to their car and left.
No matter what anyone wants to say, he compromised his mantle of innocence by how he acted. He was the adult, they were minors, the higher standard of care is on him, not the kids. There's also disparity of force in that he's weighs at least hundred pounds heavier than a eleven year old girl. He knocked her out into a metal pole, when there was no threat justifying that level of force. Self defense is proportional to the threat, and noisy 11 and 12 year olds aren't much of a threat under the law.
A lot of people on these threads have a macho view of self defense that does not match reality under the law.
<>And a lot of people on these threads have a pussy view of self defense that does not match reality under the laws of society. He is a man doing what a man has to do. Can you say the same for yourself? I want this man on my side.
You talk about disparity of force, and that self defense must be proportional to the threat. You’re right to focus on that. Because that’s what the DA will be focusing on.
You might be legally able use a hard punch to stop an attacker who is stronger than you. But try that against an unarmed little girl (as evil as she may be), and the DA will throw the book at you.
Is that fair? It doesn’t matter. Because all that matters is whether or not the DA thinks you used excessive force.
and you would have stood back clutching your pearls
Why are you and others drawing the conclusion HE escalated the situations by yelling 'knock it off'?
You don't know what happened before that. You don't know what 'knock it off refers to'. You don't know what 'knock it off' was in response to. You're assuming he went in to break up a fight but you don't know that. That is your assumption.
'Knock it off' could mean he and his family were walking to their car and they were being verbally or physically harassed.
When you're surrounded, you don't just turn your back on a threat and walk away.
I was waiting to see if this would be on the morning news and it wasn't. 'Racist white man cold-cocks innocent young black girl' isn't the national screaming headline.
I want to known more details.
“Also that avoiding fights means you don’t risk getting arrested or prosecuted...”
True, but it can subject you to the tyranny of the lawless.
>waited a few minutes until those kids parents showed up...
Laugh of the day!