Posted on 01/15/2019 6:51:26 AM PST by RevelationDavid
Thank you!! I have to explain this over and over and over. The "servants" gnashing their teeth are "Christians" that do nothing for Christ, but know He is coming back. When the Rapture comes, they will be left behind to face the Beast and a beheading. They will know that they must die for Christ or get a plague and then go to hell. That should lead to weeping and gnashing of teeth.
Most Christians will say, I'm saved,..I'm going". You are not saved by works, but you are saved FOR works. If you were saved at 19 and still live in the flesh, you will NOT be taken as His Bride in the Rapture. Read the "church at Philadelphia" in Revelation. All the other churches have something for Jesus to gripe about but them. It says in Rev 3:10 that they will escape the trial coming on the whole earth. Salvation and the Rapture are two separate things. The other churches that don't change their problem areas, will be left behind when the Bride leaves. There will be gnashing of teeth. Some try to say they are "lost people" gnashing their teeth, but the Bible says they are servants. You might be still saved, but you will have to physically die to go to the Lord. These are the people under the altar crying out for vengeance (Rev 6:9-10). These are the Christians that were not doing what they were supposed to do. If you are slaughtered by the Beast, for Christ, you will have won a white robe of righteousness. If you take the "Mark" thinking God will "give you grace", you are mistaken.
This one of the stories in The Song of Songs. The woman speaks all these words of love, but when Jesus comes and knocks for her to "come out", she tells Him to go away and come later. Then she looks for Him "in the broad way ( as opposed to the narrow way). She goes out on the streets and watchmen (SOS 5:7) catch her and "wound her". We would think she is killed, but her salvation saves her, but her veil is taken. She won't be able to marry the High Priest forever without her veil. Notice the love language all through the verses. This is NOT a lost woman, she just wasn't doing what Jesus wanted her to do. Jesus will marry those that love Him. If you love Him, you will follow his commands. Being saved is a matter of faith. The last part of the story is her doing what Jesus wants her to do. Early in the story she stated "He is mine, and I am His". Towards the end she says "I am His". At first she thought Jesus was there to pull out of her pocket when she needed Him. Later she just gave herself to Him and lost her arrogance. Even though she wasn't doing what Jesus wants all the time, His love language always was kind. She was the one that had to change.
They don’t “rest in peace” as those who were saved and repented before their bodies died.
However, they do have or retain a love of God that prevents them from belonging to Satan or to hell.
Therefore, they rest in purgatory after their bodies die, burning for Christ in the purifying suffering of their unrequited love and longing for Him until the final judgment.
I’ve read that those in hell truly wanted nothing to do with God in life, which is why they followed Satan.
So, naturally, they feel the same way in death as they did when they were in body.
Just speculation, of course.
What was the rich man’s sin? What did the poor man do to be in Abraham’s bosom?
The parable is not about heaven and hell. It is about Israel. The five brothers is the hint.
And here is an interesting thought: in the parable he wanted Lazarus to go back and tell his five brothers, and it was made clear that it would not matter. Interestingly, after this, Jesus DID bring Lazarus back from the grave. :)
Anyway, for much more detail:http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/Lazarus-byHuie.htm
http://olrl.org/doctrine/hellbelike.shtml --------
Hell will be a fire so intense that it hurts the bones, not just the skin- (Ever had a bruised bone? It's very very painful- now imagine all your bones hurting like that- That is what the fire will do- pain deep to the bones) The fire that we know today, as terrible as it can be, is child's play compared to the supernatural fire of eternal damnation- This fire will literally boil the person's inside- but will not kill them- It will broil the brain, but we will not feel relief by going unconscious- it will boil the bowels- but will not destroy them- "Thou shalt make them as an Oven of Fire, in the Time of Thy Anger" - Psalm 20:10. Folks, the person in hell is going to burn forever- This is serious business- God isn't joking about this- He views sin that seriously- ---------
Hell fire will not consume, nor give light- this is no ordinary fire- it is a supernatural fire- it does not consume the body so there will be no relief day and night- ---------
Hell will also be freezing cold. "Let him pass from the snow water to excessive heat, and his sin even to hell." (Job 24:19) one moment you are burning, the next moment you are freezing- There will be no rest- No escape- constant torment ---------
Hell will be a place of constant torment by demonic beings (Think about folks- When Job says horrors- He is not exasperating- it's going to be horrifying- your worst nightmares played out constantly) "Before I go, and return no more, to a land that is dark and covered with the mist of death: a land of misery and darkness, where the shadow of death, and no order, but everlasting horror dwelleth." (Job 10:22). --------
Hell will be a place where the person is forced to think about God and about the terrible choice they made while they were alive- constantly- this will eat at the person for eternity --------
Hell is the place where the worm feeds on the flesh but does not consume the flesh- ie you will have a constant feeling of being eaten alive- Think about a simple itch and how annoying it can be- now imagine worms crawling all over your body- eating away- but never consuming the flesh- Just the sensation of it happening- --------
Hell is a place where thirst can not be quenched- ever- try going 2 days without anything to drink- it's not very fun, and is quite uncomfortable- Hell is eternal thirst- not just 2 days worth -------
Hell is a place of unimaginable overwhelming stench- Sin around some rotting meat on a hot day- I mean really putrid rotting meat- crawling with maggots- This is nothing compared to the inescapable stench of hell- if you are sensitive to foul odours- it's is only going to be worse in hell- --------
Hell is a place where there will be no relief from people constantly shrieking and screaming, both in anger and in pain- Ever try to sleep with loud noises present? Not very fun. --------
Hell will be so crowded that you won't be able to move- although it will be too dark to see anyone else- a person will be crowded- never able to find a comfortable spot to rest- always being shoved and manoeuvred around by unseen neighbouring damned- ---------
Hell will be a place where memories torment the person always- never ceasing- always remembering how they rejected God when they had the chance to accept Him- This knowledge will never leave them and always haunt their minds- They shall never find peace again- ever- --------
Hell will be a place where all our earthly desires to sin will be magnified many times- Whatever pet sins a person enjoys fulfilling now, that desire to fulfil them in hell will be magnified many times but they will be unable to full fill them- --------
Hell will be a place where rage and anger and disdain and fury take hold and consume a being- *********
Take heed- Hell is not going to be a big party place- it is serious business!- God is very serious about sin- and He is giving us all every chance possible to avoid it while we are alive on earth- Sin has no place in a Holy Heaven- God was not kidding when He told adam and Eve not to eat that apple- They didn't beleive Him- and no it wasn't 'just an innocent mistake on their part' it was a serious blatant violation of God's command not to eat of the tree- ************ Christ willingly gave His life, willingly sacrificed His life, willingly chose to lay His life down for yours- so that you, lost sinners, do not have to experience eternity without Him- He paid the price- Will you accept the gift?
This is why you know purgatory is not real.
"For God so loved the world the He gave His only Son...."
That includes everyone--whether we love Him or not.
You are not saved by works, but you are saved FOR works.
Reminds me of this:
1 Cor 3:14-15
If what he has built survives, he will receive a reward. If it is burned up, he will suffer loss. He himself will be saved, but only as if through the flames.
John 3:16 couldn’t be more plain. But, if I’m wrong, and “perish” doesn’t mean perish, and “eternal life” doesn’t mean eternal life ... I’m still good - because I believe in Him, not in hell.
Hellfire and Brimstone: Interpreting the New Testament’s Descriptions of Hell
15 Sobering Reminders About Hell (And What It Means for Us)
I know Hell isn't a popular topic these days. "Why would a loving God cast people in Hell?" is what I often hear. The real question should be, "Why would one reject God's message of being redeemed and sharing eternal joy with Christ?" The answer to that question is that they simply love their sin more than they love God.
God has sent prophet after prophet calling for us to turn to Him so that we might live a wonderful life. We reject it. He has shown us all sorts of marvelous signs and wonders. We quickly dismiss them. He clothes and takes care of us. We complain for more. The angels fear to look upon God's glory and holiness. We treat it as nothing. And finally, if that wasn't enough, to top it all off He sends His Son who leaves the glories of Heaven to atone for our sinful behavior. Many poo-poo that idea. And you think there will not be eternal punishment for such behavior? HA!
The historical view of the Christians throughout the ages has been a literal Hell. I see no reason to change this view especially in light of the warnings in scripture.
I’m not quite clear as to what you think Hell happens to be. If there was no punishment in rejecting Christ, then why bother preaching Christ at all?
One of the disconnects many folks have is their internalization of the word, “punishment”. Punishment can mean all sorts of things. It can be a spanking. It can be the death penalty, or a fine, or death. And punishment is meted out for a variety of reasons and purposes. Believers are “punished” all the time by God in this life as a purification.
But if one refused Christ or is never given the opportunity to hear about Christ, their fate is the same - their “punishment” is death. We spread the gospel to make people aware that there is a better way.
I’m not quite clear as to what you think Hell happens to be. If there was no punishment in rejecting Christ, then why bother preaching Christ at all?
It’s been the message of the bible since Adam ate of the fruit. We are saved. What are we saved from? Death.
There are many who would rather suffer Hell than to live with Christ. That is just how evil we are. To think any other way is not to understand our nature.
This is the teaching of Manchurian Candidate Barack Hussein Obama (and probably his good buddy terrorist Bill Ayers).
To paraphrase, Obama said “He came from a family that didn’t consign 3/4 of the world’s population to Hell”.
a) Obama is not and never was a Christian
b) Obama, being not a Christian, does not understand the seriousness of the Great Commission
c) Obama, no surprise, does the works of his real father, the Devil
Rev 20:14 And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
A synonym for “death” is “separation”. In the story of the rich man and Lazarus, is the purpose to teach us there is a “gulf” that cannot be crossed, or that when we die, there is a nice place like Abraham’s bosom and a terrible place like Tartarus, or that a resurrected person preaching to the rich man’s brothers wouldn’t change a thing or that the Scriptures are available to almost all mankind to hear and heed? Or, all of the above!
The second death is a final separation from God without any hope of redemption since Christ cannot (or won’t) shed his blood a second time for those in the lake of fire.
In a late chapter in Revelation, we learn that each must give an account to the Lord for what he has done while living on earth. To the saved, each item will hurt but will additionally lead to a full understanding of the grace and goodness of the Lord plus understanding the price the Lord paid for the person’s redemption; for the condemned, each item will be a recurring thought throughout eternity that “I sinned this way and that way” and “The Gospel was close at hand and I choose not to learn about it.”
This Scripture (as with the others) stands forever - Barack Hussein Obama and Bill Ayers can pretend it doesn’t.
John 3:17-18 King James Version (KJV)
17 For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved.
18 He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.
[Mat 13:38 The field is the world, and the good seed is the sons of the kingdom. The weeds are the sons of the Evil One,
Mat 13:39 and the Enemy who sowed them is the Devil. The harvest is the end of the age, and the reapers are angels. ]
Correct. These verses show all are not “God’s children”. An erroneous theology taught by John McCain and others.
You have to be adopted-in. It’s a personal choice.
Then you simply don't understand man's nature. The Son of God was right before us and we killed Him. That says it all.
So what happens about judgment?
Then you simply don’t understand man’s nature. The Son of God was right before us and we killed Him. That says it all.
That being said, not everyone killed him. The apostles didn’t. They believed.
I will confess that I don’t “perfectly” understand man’s nature. Only God does.
So what happens about judgment?
None are worthy, but believers are spared. It’s a grace thing.
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