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To: RevelationDavid

No, Hell is not real. It was an invention of Roman Catholicism to scare people into obedience. Most importantly, Hell is NOT a translation of Gehenna, Sheol, Hades, or Tartarus in the New Testament.

For a serious study of this topic, please see:

https://www.samuelgdawson.com/uploads/1/1/5/5/115526689/jesus_teaching_on_hell.pdf


5 posted on 01/15/2019 7:01:14 AM PST by FNU LNU
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To: FNU LNU

Listen to the message FNU LNU....listen to the Word....


6 posted on 01/15/2019 7:02:57 AM PST by RevelationDavid (Jesus First, no matter the cost.)
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To: FNU LNU

The apostle Paul taught “to be absent from the body, and to be present with the Lord.” (2 Corinthians 5:8)

Present means a conscious experience.


23 posted on 01/15/2019 7:23:23 AM PST by fwdude (Forget the Catechism, the RCC's real doctrine is what it allows with impunity.)
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To: FNU LNU

Here are another excellent couple of sites on the subject with some serious scholarship:
http://rethinkinghell.com/
http://jewishnotgreek.com/

Also, this is a great rundown regarding Gehenna, and the comments are interesting as well.
https://blog.bibleplaces.com/2011/04/myth-of-burning-garbage-dump-of-gehenna.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed:+BiblePlacesBlog+(BiblePlaces+Blog)&utm_content=Google+Feedfetcher


28 posted on 01/15/2019 7:26:25 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: reed13k

bump for later


29 posted on 01/15/2019 7:27:06 AM PST by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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To: FNU LNU

It’s enough that you don’t mind going to hell, but to drag others with you because of your foolish post is inexcusable and your eternity will be accompanied with a great millstone about your neck.


42 posted on 01/15/2019 8:07:15 AM PST by Pilgrim's Progress (http://www.baptistbiblebelievers.com/BYTOPICS/tabid/335/Default.aspx D)
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To: FNU LNU
I understand what you are saying about the RCC, but Hell, Sheol, Hades, ect are translated from the word "grave". Tartarus is a place where demons are held, but the "lake of fire" is the final resting place for Satan and people that don't accept Jesus.

Rev 20:14 Then Death and Hades were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.

Rev 20:15 And anyone not found written in the Book of Life was cast into the lake of fire.

Hades is the grave where you are held until the White Throne Judgement. The Lake of Fire is the second death. Everyone that dies in Christ only dies once. If you are alive when He comes, your body will be left behind to receive your new resurrection body that can stand in the proximity of God without burning up and lives forever without sickness. Your flesh should die in the Baptismal and be left behind. Circumcision is the Hebrew expression of cutting off useless flesh and burying it to separate yourself to God. Spiritually speaking, you should leave a fleshly dead body at Baptism and be raised as a "new creature" in the Spirit. The only way to be a "Son of God" is for God to "Father" you. God is Spirit.

Jesus complained many times about people that had ears that didn't hear and eyes that couldn't see. He is speaking of people not born of the Spirit.

You are free to believe what you want, but you will be separated from God if you are NOT reborn. If people want to gamble that they will not be in eternal fire, that's their gamble. But if you are separated from God, He is the life source so you will not have life. Jesus ( written in red writing ) told of a man named Lazarus and a rich man. The rich man wasn't having a pleasant day. Before Jesus died on the cross, people were held in this place. When Jesus died, He went to Hell, Sheol, Grave, whatever you want to call this place and set the captives free. Today, to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.

55 posted on 01/15/2019 8:47:27 AM PST by chuckles
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