This is a video which is 13 minutes 25 seconds long and goes into the issue of "marry sue" charaters infesting movies. Such as Star Wars Force Awakens, Last Jedi. It us PARTICULARRLY useful in sharing and understanding how hollywerid does NOT want to tell a story but rather impose a world view and how the new movies are about themselves.
This can be seen how Kathleen Kennedy and her cardre of leftists singularly destroyed Star Wars (seriously so bad a story teller that Phantom Menace looks ok)
This is also vital with the new Marvel Comics Movie "Captain Marvel" comming out with uber leftist Brie Larson (and her body double) as a Mary Sue Female who can do no wrong and has all the power in the universe handed to her to impose her SJW power view upon the world.
Essentially the upcomming Marvel Movie is more akin to Captain Grievance Politics rather than a story. It is also important to remember the movie PR machine is now out in full force with puff pieces pointing out how this is the first woman superhero lead in a movie. (wonder woman?). Even Drudgereport.com fell victim to the BS PR machine hook line and sinker.
This is a very good summary of the Mary Sue character tool used to convey power rather than story.
Disclosure: I have no relation whatsoever to this video or author. I just found it interesting and though others would find it educational and informative.
Movie Ping.
There’s Mary Sue, and there’s Peggy Sue.
Peggy had her own song!
The left loves power fantasies, they love the dictator, they don;t understand the concept of due process and inherent rights, they want to fly by ignoring gravity, not by conquering it...
for later....
https://www.dictionary.com/e/fictional-characters/mary-sue/
I had never heard the term before so I had to look it up. It seems it goes back to the 1970s.
Go ahead, try to get a major character of any minority persuasion past your editor and publisher with notable flaws. You can’t. It’s not even about social justice, it’s about kneejerk reactions to how we treat protected classes. If you give your minority character’s flaws, you (the author) are perceived as attacking the class. You’re motivations and even your entire psychology will be called into question. If the flaw is the least bit close to any stereotype, even the more obscure, you’ll be put on a spit and the fire will be lit. You’re done.
It took Luke Skywalker 3 movies to become a mediocre Jedi, who didn’t even win his ultimate battle. Even Superman has a crippling weakness. Iron Man is an alcoholic. etc
Rey was simply born the ultimate Jedi with no training. Captain Marvel is the most powerful superhero in the universe, with no weaknesses. SJW literature always involves “The Chosen One”, perfect from birth with no learning curve or need for personal growth.
Funny how all the SJW actresses and big talkers out in Hollyweird can’t seem to keep Harvey Weinstein and others of his ilk from raping them or coercing sex from them for acting jobs. They only talk when they are older and the career is over or on the wane. Not too powerful in reality, are they?
In other words, boring and predictable.
Ensign Sue Must Die
http://interrobangstudios.com/comics-display.php?strip_id=989
Hilarious classic MS.
Another angle used by a lot of “story tellers” in both books and movies is ‘dude with tits’ for women, usually in combat roles and such and ‘chick with a d**k’ for whiny weak men.
Mary Sues dont have to earn anything. Everything has been given to them. Sounds like a leftist fantasy to me.
>> It is also important to remember the movie PR machine is now out in full force with puff pieces pointing out how this is the first woman superhero lead in a movie. (wonder woman?).
Supergirl, 1984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxXbvzOdj-Q
The young woman who wrote that Star Trek short story (with Mary Sue) in the early 1970s was prescient.
Although Disney/Marvel has made their political propaganda purposes very clear, and is obviously steering Captain Marvel in a Mary Sue SJW direction, I will say this for the sake of accuracy: She is not on the same level as Rey in Star Wars – not even close.
1. Carol Danvers has been in the story-line almost as long as Mar-Vell: March 1968 versus December 1967.
2. Danvers was an adult, trained USAF officer. She was not an adolescent, and she was not untrained or inexperienced. She met Mar-Vell in her official capacity as a military officer.
3. Danvers was imbued with Mar-Vell’s Kree DNA in an accident, January 1977, becoming Ms. Marvel. Marvel already set her on an overtly feminist political heading from then on; it is therefore not a recent contrivance.
4. Although she formally adopted the title of Captain Marvel fairly recently, July 2012, due to Captain America’s encouragement, she was a part of the mythos, and tied to the original Captain Marvel, for decades, from the very beginning.
5. Both before and after she became super-powered, she had years of experience to add to her military training. She is neither a novice (beginner) nor an amateur (non-professional).
6. At least when in Binary form, she was undeniably powerful, although not overall quite as much of a powerhouse as she is now being made.
Given that this is the penultimate episode of a 22-film arc, and given that all know she will play a significant role in the finale, Avengers Endgame, I think it is not plausible to project the Captain Marvel movie as an underperformer. I predict it will be a blockbuster.
I know the Fan-Boy mindset (and it still figures prominently, no matter what the male-haters say): There are fanatics who will go to see this movie multiple times just to see the end-credit scene(s), especially if it/they tie into Avengers (which it/they likely will).
It is after Avengers – in whatever they decide to call Phase 4 – that I expect to see some underperforming, unless they learn their lesson from Star Wars.
I suspect they will not be willing to learn that lesson – and that, more and more, the MCU will be going Solo to the box office (pun intended).
Whatever happens later, I repeat: Carol Danvers is not a full-blown Mary Sue like Rey of Star Wars (or like Wesley Crusher, the quintessential Marty Stu).
P.S.
I know some of this directly. I collected comics long ago; I owned Marvel Super-Heroes #12 & 13, Captain Marvel #1, and Ms. Marvel #1 at one time. I also once owned The Incredible Hulk #1 (the real first one) and Avengers #2 (I never got hold of #1).
Was blissfully unaware of the terms “Mary Sue” and Gary Stu” until this article...