Joseph and The Exodus

YouTube ^ | January 27, 2016 | Dr. David Neiman

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Can’t believe I forgot this one, it birthed both David Rohl and the Centuries of Darkness school:

Society for Interdisciplinary Studies
SIS Introduction: Chronology
http://www.sis-group.org.uk/sis-introduction-chronology.htm
http://www.sis-group.org.uk/sis-background.htm
http://www.sis-group.org.uk/publications.htm
http://forum.sis-group.org.uk/

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Centuriies of Darkness: Fifteen Frequently Asked Questions

1. Hasn't Egyptian chronology, which CoD challenges, been firmly fixed by 'Sothic' astronomical dating? [visit answer]
2. Can Radiocarbon Dating prove CoD right or wrong? [visit answer]
3. Do the results from the developing dendrochronology for Anatolia agree or disagree with CoD? [visit answer]
4. Where does CoD stand with the scientific dating for the explosion of Thera which is raising, rather than lowering, Bronze Age chronology? [visit answer]
5. Has Professor Kenneth Kitchen shown that the CoD restructuring of Egyptian chronology is impossible? [visit answer]
6. Egyptologists say that they can retrocalculate, by means of 'dead reckoning', from securely dated later dynasties back through the Third Intermediate Period to the New Kingdom. Is this true? [visit answer]
7. But how can you dispute the obvious similarity between the names Shoshenq and Shishak? [visit answer]
8. Is it true that the conventional chronology of Egypt is supported and proved to be correct by its synchronisms with the chronology of Mesopotamia? [visit answer]
9. How valid is the statement that CoD makes nonsense of Biblical history by placing King David in the middle of the reign of Ramesses II? [visit answer]
10. If the Philistines arrived in Canaan in the time of Ramesses III, whom CoD makes a contemporary of King Solomon, how could they have fought his predecessors Saul and David as mentioned in the Old Testament? [visit answer]
11. Have any valid criticisms been levelled at CoD which the authors have not been able to answer? [visit answer]
12. Is there any truth in the rumour that scholars have fabricated or falsified evidence in order to disprove CoD? [visit answer]
13. Have any of the conclusions in CoD been accepted by other archaeologists and ancient historians? [visit answer]
14. Why has CoD not been generally accepted as the correct chronology for the ancient world? [visit answer]
15. Is there a single test that can be done to prove or disprove CoD? [visit answer]

References here

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(I'm currently listening to this on the Roku)

The Exodus Fairytale or Historical Fact by David Rohl | YouTube | Published on Aug 1, 2018

david rohl shishak site:youtube.com

Google

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I saw the P of E in Imax on its special premiere event...

Haven't seen an Imax in many years. Must have been awesome on the BIG screen!

What do you make of the new proposed location for Mt. Sinai, in SA? IMO, more patterns of evidence for than against. :-)

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Most interesting story I’ve seen about Joseph is the find of a statue in a rich man’s house in one of the cities of Goshen which was painted in many colors.

Could it be Joseph? Who knows. But I’d like to think he was real and the stories have some validity as oral traditions of an ancient tribal society.

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The Exodus Fairytale or Historical Fact by David Rohl | YouTube | Published on Aug 1, 2018

Thanks for posting. Biblical history gives me goosebumps.

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I was about to ask if you left anything out, LOL. And I take it you know a follow-up movie to “Patterns of Evidence” is coming out next month.

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Yeah, amorphous mentioned it, and linked it. I watched the trailer last night.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/3728564/posts?page=13#13

Glad you liked the list, there are a load of other names in my “Others...” folder inside the Velikovsky folder, including :^) Charles Pope, John Bimson, a bunch of the former movers and shakers at KRONOS, and the late Roger Henry (his wife was nice enough to email me that he’d passed) who was doing a fine job expanding V’s original work.

There’s a folder for the late Robert Compton, who self-published a few books on different topics, an interesting polymath and autodidact outside of his degreed expertise, which was engineering (Compton was distilling hydrogen peroxide in his garage, for use in a liquid-fueled high powered rocket he was building under the auspices of the Sacramento L5 Society; besides being a great liquid oxidixer for kerosene, it is as we all know, a monopropellant; poor Roger).

Donovan Courville (deceased), James Hogan (deceased, plus he acquired an interest in 9/11 truthing and Holocaust denial late in his life, engineer, author of the “Giants” series), Owen Gingerich (I think he’s one of the nebulous ones, his website suddenly changed content, and the new webmaster contacted me claiming to know nothing about him), even have a folder for the nutjob Ted Holden.

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From the Start of the 12th Dynasty to the 18th
The California Institute for Ancient Studies

In agreement with the statement of Alan Gardiner on priests at On, and according to the opinion of Dr. Courville that the last 50 years of the 5th Dynasty overlap with the 12th Dynasty, we ought to recognize that there were priests at Heliopolis/On during that time. On that basis then it could very well be that the ancient city of `On' was a place of activities during 12th Dynasty times. Therefore, the biblical assertian that the father-in-law of Joseph was a `priest of On' should exclude the possibility that Joseph lived during Hyksos times (since they only worshipped Seth), while we see a stronger likelihood that the circumstance of his priesthood at On underscores a 12th Dynasty connection. The city of On is also mentioned in the Bible, see Genesis 41:45, 50; 46:20, and thought to have also been known as Beth-Shemesh, a name which more than one location seemed to have had, Jeremiah 43:13... Since we place Joseph into the time of the 12th Dynasty we want to study names of influential people from its records to see if a person like `Joseph' can be found in them. We are aware of David Rohl's choice for Joseph but find no good reasons to agree with it... Of these a name which perhaps comes closest to the biblical name `Potiphar' in the records of Pharaoh Amenemhet III is one `Ptahwer' who was also Immanuel Velikovsky's pick for `Potiphar'... After Sesostris III came Amenemhet III followed by Queen Pharaoh Sebeknefrure. The princess who raised Moses then was most likely Sebeknefrure... She apparently married Chenephres who was supposed to have been the foster father of Moses. We conclude that most likely Amenemhet IV was Moses. All of the mummies of the 12th dynasty kings were found except that of Amenemhet IV.