Posted on 03/02/2019 6:26:23 AM PST by Gamecock
COLUMBIA, SC When the Rev. Mel Arant stands behind the pulpit of his Upstate South Carolina church this Sunday morning, he plans to raise a subject thats caused him and the worldwide United Methodist Church much grief over the past week.
This was a terrible experience, said Arant, the pastor of Pendleton United Methodist Church. He was one of the 16 Palmetto State delegates to the international conference of the United Methodist Church that last week was torn over the churchs stance on LGBT acceptance and inclusion.
I think that what we found is a deep wound, and we dont know how to treat it yet, Arant said. Whats going to happen in your local churches is pastors like myself are going to stand up on Sunday morning we know which way our body leans and were going to remind them that we are here to hold the door open for lost people and that you cannot do that if you are only looking in a mirror.
United Methodist Church members around the globe are divided by the churchs newly strengthened ban on same-sex marriages and lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer clergy. Some South Carolina United Methodist churches are struggling with how to respond and move forward.
The widespread tension stems from a vote Tuesday at an international United Methodist conference in St. Louis. Just more than half of the 822 worldwide delegates voted to affirm the churchs existing ban on performing same-sex marriages and on ordaining LGBT clergy and to strengthen enforcement of those tenets of discipline. And in a separate vote, they took steps toward creating a process through which individual churches could possibly leave the Methodist denomination.
Those proposals are still under official review by United Methodist leadership.
An alternative plan that was narrowly shot down at the conference would have allowed local and regional church leadership to decide their own stances on LGBT acceptance and inclusion.
The emotional debate at the conference highlighted deep divisions between progressives and conservatives in the faith and hinted at a possible splintering of the denomination. There have been denominational splits in the Presbyterian and Lutheran churches in recent decades, also stemming at least in part from differing views on LGBT issues.
There are nearly 1,000 Methodist churches with more than 222,000 church members across South Carolina. The number of both churches and members has been declining in recent years, a trend consistent among major Protestant denominations in the state. S.C. United Methodists lost more than 16,000 members in the past decade, according to statewide church statistics.
United Methodists claim nearly 7 million members in the United States and more than 12 million members worldwide. It is the second-largest Protestant denomination in the country and in South Carolina.
In a statement this week, South Carolinas statewide United Methodist leader lamented the polarization displayed at the conference and emphasized the need for unity in the church.
Bishop L. Jonathan Holston neither affirmed nor condemned the conferences vote against gay marriage and clergy but said that this is not a day to declare winners and losers this is a time for us to really seek Gods grace together.
At times like this, it seems there is so much that divides us, but we need to focus on those things that unite us our mission and our ministry at home and abroad, Holston said. We need to remember that we are Gods people, and that we have a future with hope. We are just going to have to discern what that future is going to be and how we move into it together.
Joe Cal Watson, a retired Methodist minister who pastors Columbias Whaley Street United Methodist Church in his retirement, was more blunt than the bishop in his reaction to the LGBT vote.
This whole thing ... is sort of disgusting, the progressive-minded Watson said. People are in different places in their lives, and they should have the right to choose without being set aside.
Watson said the issue of LGBT inclusion rarely if ever gets raised in his own church because it doesnt touch their lives in the small congregation. But he expressed agitation at the greater church being divided over something he doesnt consider a church-defining issue.
We have enough controversy, if wed let everybody choose their way and get together on the big issues, Watson said.
But at Two Rivers Church just outside of Charleston, the issue of inclusion is intensely personal. A number of church members and lay leaders are LGBT. And rarely does a Sunday go by that the church doesnt talk about inclusion in one way or another, said Stanton Adams, the churchs communications director.
When it formed as a church about a year and a half ago, Two Rivers was going to be a space where all were welcome without exception, Adams said. People dont want to be told, You can be queer, or you can be Christian. Thats the space weve provided for people, is to say, Please, bring us everything you have, and we will love every bit of it. Theres no exception. Theres no change order there.
The international conferences vote was hurtful, he said.
But Two Rivers values wont change, and theyre not up for debate, Adams said.
There has been widespread wondering about whether and how many churches might try to leave the denomination in the aftermath of the LGBT vote. Adams said its too soon to contemplate whether Two Rivers relationship with the denomination could change in the future.
Thats a very formal conversation we would have to have with our leadership team, Adams said. This is still very fresh.
The churchs message for now will be to acknowledge that hurt, and we want to do whatever we can to make it right, he said.
In the opposite corner of the state, Arants congregation will hear a fundamentally similar message from their pastor.
My congregation is conservative-leaning. My goal is to remind them that nobody wins when the church is divided, Arant said. It distracts us from our main mission, which is to know Christ personally, but to make Christ known in the things we say and do and how we treat and talk about people. And when the church is divided over small issues, it distracts you from that.
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SC Ping?
Take it and like it. You won’t leave because you plan to bring it up next conference. You will vote on it until it passes and if it passes, you will declare the matter settled and never allow another vote on it
Gee, What could be the reason behind this?
nothing to it, God says it is an abomination, declare sin is to be repented of..stick with it, and if the lgbtq whatever community doesn’t like it, take it up with the LORD
This is the kind of BS they spew 24/7 instead of teaching biblical truth to their congregations. Hope they fold and turn their empty church buildings into something useful.
If parishioners show up on Sunday, they are accepting LGBT. If they don’t, they send a very loud and clear message against leftist leanings.
So, man believes he can change the word of God by consensus. Original sin be damned - (interesting juxtaposition of phrase, that).
How can a twisted degenerate mind believe that what GOD calls abomination can be acceptable, as if GOD has 'shadow of turning'?
What a one-sided, pro-gay, anti-biblical doctrine article.
Allowing each church to pick homosexuality is allowing homosexuality. What is hard with that math?
The wound is from the dagger in the gut that the letter madness crowd is repeatedly thrusting into congregations with their insistence that the should t have to repent. The vote to reaffirm that marriage is still real marriage isn’t a wound, it’s an attempt to pull the knife out!
Homosexuality is a sin according to Gods Word, the Bible. Jesus welcomed sinners who repented of their sin, saying Your sin is forgiven. Go and sin no more. That applies to all sins and all sinners.
Let’s put numbers to it. Possibly 5% LGBT want to pervert God’s Word and Jesus’ church. As Beth Ann Cook said and we have been praying this, “I don’t think we need a political strategy to address a spiritual problem.” AMEN!
The gate is narrow and we want to expand it to fit all selfish decisions that are against God.
Sin sIN, SIN> SIn, which letter is confusing.
“They shouldn’t”, not “the should t”
Ah, but homosexual “marriage” would fall into the category of sin all you want rather than sin no more.
Its not about banning them or not including them ... its about calling sin what it is - sin. All are welcome. But change needs to happen. Repentance needs to happen. A determination to avoid sin and the near occasion of sin needs to happen.
But the media and the agenda twist this into some sort of banning of gays as if the church is locking them out.
To the left, religion is okay as long as it doesnt stand for anything.
Yep, that is the gameplan...keep pestering until it passes. Note, I’m not a Methodist, but I have attended some services.
I would suggest that the bulk of Methodist Churches are in urbanized areas, which are mostly dying off....leaving marginal memberships, mostly over the age of 60. Once this does pass...about half the members will just up and walk out, and the remaining group will probably be no more than sixty to eighty members per church....not enough to sustain it.
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