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German academics and authors call for end to 'gender nonsense'
The Guardian UK ^ | 08 Mar 2019 | Philip Oltermann

Posted on 03/08/2019 3:18:36 PM PST by blueplum

A group of German authors, comedians and academics have added fuel to the flames of an increasingly bad-tempered culture war over language bias by calling for a fightback against “ridiculous linguistic constructions” designed to make German more gender-neutral.

In an open letter published by the Dortmund-based German Language Association, signatories including the philosopher Rüdiger Safranski, novelist Peter Schneider, comedian Dieter Hallervorden and the former head of the country’s domestic intelligence Hans-Georg Maassen, hit back against calls for more gender-neutral generic nouns..(snip)

...The protest letter, headed “An end to gender nonsense!” and published shortly before International Women’s Day, argues that the distribution of gender to generic nouns in German is too arbitrary for there to be a systemic sexist bias.

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


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KEYWORDS: 2020election; academia; angelamerkel; culturewar; dieterhallervorden; election2020; europeanunion; genderdysphoria; gendergames; germany; hansgeorgmaassen; homosexualagenda; nato; peterschneider; rudigersafranski; sexism
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gender-neutral nouns make sexism obsolete. Whatever will the feminists do now?
1 posted on 03/08/2019 3:18:36 PM PST by blueplum
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To: blueplum
I sort of thought it started with Germans.


2 posted on 03/08/2019 3:22:38 PM PST by DannyTN
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To: blueplum

Ja!, Ja!


3 posted on 03/08/2019 3:25:06 PM PST by lee martell
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German grammar could not deal gender neutral nouns and adjectives.

German grammar is so highly structured about the gender of the words that it would fall apart if they tried to enforce gender neutral anything.


4 posted on 03/08/2019 3:30:59 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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German academics and authors call for end to 'gender nonsense'

I remember saying something similar to my high school German teacher.

der die das die
den die das die
dem der dem den
des der des der

And those are just the ways to say "the" depending on case and gender.

5 posted on 03/08/2019 3:31:33 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Leave the job, leave the clearance. It should be the same rule for the Swamp as for everyone else.)
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To: metmom

Then the German language must die and be replaced by a gender neutral Newspeak, for the rainbow hath spoken.


6 posted on 03/08/2019 3:36:52 PM PST by sphinx
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To: metmom

I think other languages have the same issues, with gender nouns and adjectives.

will those languages evolve, to make the radical feminist types happy?

Does English have any such gender issues?


7 posted on 03/08/2019 3:38:01 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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“And those are just the ways to say “the” depending on case and gender.”

I remember that and it was a major faux pas if you F’d it up when speaking Deutsch.


8 posted on 03/08/2019 3:42:20 PM PST by Bonemaker (invictus" maneo)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

the problem in English is that the preferred-by-some ‘they’ and ‘them’ are not singular.
One person is transformed into a multiple. Example: “They are smart and we are proud of them.’ It just doesn’t come off right and leaves people looking around for the rest of ‘them’. And implies that ‘they’ are more important than ‘I’.


9 posted on 03/08/2019 3:47:32 PM PST by blueplum ("...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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bkmk


10 posted on 03/08/2019 3:56:20 PM PST by Sergio (An object at rest cannot be stopped! - The Evil Midnight Bomber What Bombs at Midnight)
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Obviously will be charged with some sort of hate crime or other.


11 posted on 03/08/2019 4:04:35 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: DannyTN

I thought Tim Curry did an excellent job in Rocky Horror Picture Show.


12 posted on 03/08/2019 4:09:45 PM PST by SkyDancer ( ~ Just Consider Me A Random Fact Generator ~ Eat Sleep Fly Repeat ~)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

English does not have the same kinds of gender forms.

The nouns are basically all *it*, and there is no modifying the adjectives to agree with the gender of the nouns.

English has many of its own quirks that make it difficult to learn, but noun gender is not one of them.


13 posted on 03/08/2019 4:10:25 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: blueplum

Most religions believe God created man and woman, not it and it.


14 posted on 03/08/2019 4:13:01 PM PST by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.)
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To: blueplum

Stop mis-gendering me!

signed, La Quinta, a blind, albino, lesbian, dwarf, black womyn.


15 posted on 03/08/2019 4:22:15 PM PST by dynachrome (Build the wall, deport them all.)
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I forgot trans-gendered.


16 posted on 03/08/2019 4:24:37 PM PST by dynachrome (Build the wall, deport them all.)
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To: metmom

+1


17 posted on 03/08/2019 4:31:09 PM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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Not to worry, Germany.
Your immigrants will take care of the folks with faulty genes.


18 posted on 03/08/2019 4:42:55 PM PST by Da Coyote
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...by calling for a fightback against “ridiculous linguistic constructions” designed to make German more gender-neutral.

Frau Merkel has plans for a konzentrationlager for their types.

19 posted on 03/08/2019 4:53:44 PM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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Man and woman...... what a concept.......

We are so far past that ,what with there being 54 or more different gender identities nowadays.


20 posted on 03/08/2019 5:56:22 PM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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