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Freeman Dyson - We don’t understand climate
marijnpoels.com ^ | March 5, 2019 | Freeman Dyson/Marijn Poels

Posted on 03/12/2019 2:20:05 AM PDT by Mr170IQ

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Freeman Dyson is one of the most interesting living minds in the world, still sharp and going strong in his 90's.

To me, he has one of the few sensible and scientific takes on climate change out there (one completely uncorrupted by any political agenda on the subject, as far as I can tell) - he recognizes that climate is a complex nonlinear system that is not well-understood or fully characterized by our theories and models. Therefore, anyone who dogmatically makes predictions, be they doomsday or that nothing is changing based on current information, is probably wrong. This means that we need open minds and research rather than a hysteria that brings our economy to a halt.

A couple of other sensible voices on the subject are Patrick Michaels and Robert Balling (both climatologists), authors of Climate of Extremes, who start by acknowledging that yes, we're warmer on average than we were 100 years ago, but neither that nor any other fact in climate research justifies the current political reaction from Al Gore's minions.

21 posted on 03/12/2019 6:16:57 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: Mr170IQ

bmk


22 posted on 03/12/2019 6:35:17 AM PDT by stump56 (Freedom isn't free.)
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To: central_va

“All you need to know about climate is that is has two states: Approaching the next ice or leaving the last ice age. ”

The Solar Minimum may be telling us we are approaching the next ice age, unfortunately.


23 posted on 03/12/2019 6:53:26 AM PDT by jdsteel (Americans are Dreamers too!!!)
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To: Right Wing Assault

Don’t think He said that natural gas should have reduced global warming. He said that its use has reduced CO2 released versus using coal. His point is the CO2 connection to warming is unproven and that climate is too complicated to make predictions about any net effects.


24 posted on 03/12/2019 7:01:47 AM PDT by JeanLM (Obama proves melanin is just enough to win elections)
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To: Mr170IQ

I met Freeman Dyson at a JASONS conference ten years ago.
It was quite an honor to chat with him. Humbling experience to meet someone who participated in important crossing points in history.


25 posted on 03/12/2019 7:02:29 AM PDT by Reily
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To: Mr170IQ

A refreshingly fact-filled discussion on CO2 effects.


26 posted on 03/12/2019 8:19:47 AM PDT by RideForever
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To: Mr170IQ

Good read!


27 posted on 03/12/2019 9:49:08 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: z3n

I didn’t say anything about Mars.


28 posted on 03/12/2019 9:55:30 AM PDT by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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Martians don’t like biomass, and live landscapes. They spent millennia martiforming their planet into a red rocky vista. Modern human libs must be in that camp. CO2 is bad. Methane is bad. Water vapor is bad. Anything that is either a product of life as well as constitutes to a warm atmosphere that contributes to life must be banned. What we apparently need (according to climate sciencers) is a thin lifeless atmosphere that let’s all the heat escape back into space. Like Mars


29 posted on 03/12/2019 10:05:56 AM PDT by z3n
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