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A Look at the Short-Lived 3-Inch Compact Floppy Disk
Byte Cellar ^ | 25FEB19 | Blake Patterson

Posted on 04/10/2019 7:16:07 AM PDT by vannrox

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To: vannrox

They use to hand them out as business cards are trade shows...


21 posted on 04/10/2019 8:01:01 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BB0ndRzaz2o)
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To: C19fan

I use my old 3.5” floppies for target practice.


22 posted on 04/10/2019 8:03:27 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: circlecity

Bil Gates: Why would anyone need to access more than 640K of RAM?


23 posted on 04/10/2019 8:04:18 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: vannrox

I had a Roland electric piano from the 80s that came with a midi synthesizer with its own built-in floppy drive to record stuff on. The floppies were like 2.5”, so you couldn’t use them on anything else except other Roland machines.


24 posted on 04/10/2019 8:05:44 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: C19fan

The I recall the 3” disk format but there were other competing “mass” storage forms as well at the time including a mini-string tape transport, which used a small, short tape loop cartridge similar to 8 track (remember the trailing tapes going from the cartridge to the transport in your car when the tape got wrapped around the capstan?), a mini cassette system, all of which main claim was they were going to be less expensive to buy the external transport than the external floppy drive cost. All of them failed for the same reason, non-interchangeability with the main built-in 5 ¼” drive, not to mention poorly conceived designs and access speeds.


25 posted on 04/10/2019 8:06:07 AM PDT by Swordmaker (My pistol self-identifies as an iPad, so you must accept it in gun-free zones, you hoplaphobe bigot!)
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26 posted on 04/10/2019 8:20:32 AM PDT by freds6girlies (many that are first shall be last; and the last shall be first. Mt. 19:30. R.I.P. G & J)
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To: Vermont Lt

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27 posted on 04/10/2019 8:30:53 AM PDT by ImJustAnotherOkie (All I know is The I read in the papers.)
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To: central_va

they make good coasters


28 posted on 04/10/2019 8:36:58 AM PDT by lerker
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To: lerker

I found an old oracle installation pack. It’s about 50 3.5” floppies!


29 posted on 04/10/2019 8:41:43 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

Neither will my Harvard Graphics.


30 posted on 04/10/2019 8:45:11 AM PDT by sauropod (Yield to sin, and experience chastening and sorrow; yield to God, and experience joy and blessing.)
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To: Redleg Duke

“First I heard of the 3” .”

That was kind of the point.


31 posted on 04/10/2019 8:45:38 AM PDT by Lurker51
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To: wally_bert

Lotus had a database program “Approach” that was excellent. It was relatively easy to use and design - I really liked it.


32 posted on 04/10/2019 8:48:59 AM PDT by circlecity
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To: circlecity

I might have heard of that.

Notes is a beyond awful product.


33 posted on 04/10/2019 8:51:01 AM PDT by wally_bert (Disc jockeys are as interchangeable as spark plugs.)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie; vannrox; Vermont Lt
"You broke it...Now your Lotus 123 won’t work."
There should be a statue for VisiCalc/Lotus 123.

"What if" calculations through pages and pages of numbers made the Mac/PC industry and now we have IBM mainframes on our phones.

Recently saw a dated picture of an IBM storage unit with 5 megabytes capacity on a forklift being delivered. Cost unknown but for perspective one picture on your phone or one song would max it out.

;-)

34 posted on 04/10/2019 8:53:33 AM PDT by Tunehead54 (Nothing funny here ;-)
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To: vannrox
Commercial Photography
35 posted on 04/10/2019 9:04:37 AM PDT by CaliforniaCraftBeer
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To: vannrox

I remember having some friends over one night a while back. We were discussing old outdated technology, both hardware and software and telling tales of tech support nightmares.

There was a girl there who was amazed at the way we were discussing that stuff. Almost as if it were a religious thing.

Then I suddenly remembered something I had tucked away in a corner of my closet. I asked her if she wanted to see my 8 inch Shugart.

I’ve NEVER been slapped so hard in my life....


36 posted on 04/10/2019 9:11:23 AM PDT by DarthFuzball ("Life is full of little surprises." - Pandora)
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To: Boogieman

“I had a Roland electric piano from the 80s that came with a midi synthesizer with its own built-in floppy drive to record stuff on. The floppies were like 2.5”, so you couldn’t use them on anything else except other Roland machines.”

That’s interesting, I have heard of Roland 3.5 inch floppy drives (and possibly disks) that looked identical, but were incompatible with everything else, but I didn’t know that Roland also used an entirely different diskette size. I’m guessing that, maybe, the cost of producing an entirely different floppy format was high, and in the end, it was just cheaper to take an existing format and modify it to not work with anything else? (Why Roland? Why?)

Ironically, while I’m reading this, I’m taking a break from soldering up a reproduction of a Roland midi interface card for an MPU-401 (the breakout boxes were often kept, but the interface cards got thrown out), while I listen to midi files of old DOS game music on my Sound Canvas. In the last couple years, I’ve been into building the kind of vintage DOS gaming rigs that were simply too expensive for normal people to own when they were new. I got into that as a hobby when I realized that modern computer operating systems make the hardware too abstract to teach my son how computers really work. The craziest part is that after I build a couple more of the midi interface cards, is that we are going to be building an accurate reproduction of an IBM PC 5150 motherboard from scratch. I never would have expected that I would literally be building my own computer (rather than just assembling it from off-the-shelf cards and components). Hopefully, my son will gain an advantage learning about computers in this way over people his age, even if he doesn’t go into a particularly tech related field.


37 posted on 04/10/2019 9:20:38 AM PDT by Lurker51
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To: Boogieman
I have a Sony MDX4 multi track recorder that uses the Sony MD-Data disc (had to be the four track version). I don't think you can find them anymore.


38 posted on 04/10/2019 9:30:21 AM PDT by jaydubya2
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To: Lurker51
Here is what the disks that came with my Roland looked like, they were 2.8" "Quick Disk" floppies. Apparently Nintendo also used some variety of this format for a "Nintendo Family Computer System" they sold in Japan, but otherwise it was only used for synthesizers and samplers after the 3.5" floppy won out in the PC market.


39 posted on 04/10/2019 9:58:35 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: vannrox

Huh, never heard of these. Although I did have a internal ZIP drive in my 97 Thinkpad flex bay (second hard drive, second battery, floppy disk, and even third party stuff like that ZIP drive). I think if you had a CD drive it had to go in there too, but don’t remember for sure.


40 posted on 04/10/2019 11:05:01 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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