Posted on 04/21/2019 8:21:54 AM PDT by martin_fierro
“That’s a pretty weak motivation IMHO (the Night King wants the Long Night to return)”
Maybe the three-eyed raven is lying, to manipulate people into fighting his enemy for him.
“One of the visions was of the throne room where there was a hole in the ceiling and it was snowing inside the room.”
Yeah, Kings Landing has got to be attacked this season by somebodies dragon.
If their numbers are what we would expect after thousands of years....Wouldn’t such a mass migration of white walkers be immediately spotted? I can’t imagine they ever really get far from the North unless they simply trample all of humanity.
I’m not saying the Raven is lying, though that would be a twist wouldn’t it?...
I am simply saying its pretty 1 dimensional...
Perhaps the books have offered more in terms of the history of the world...
Obviously they were beaten back to the north (or retreated) there at some point in the past and the rest of the world built the wall to keep them there... They have lived there so long, they are all but forgotten by humanity, to a point where they are believed to be nothing but Myth and Legend... things of stories to scare young children.
Many winters have come and gone since they were driven or went north...dragons too are all but forgotten myths... So, why NOW... why this moment does the Night King return, or attempt to return to take the southern lands...Why not any time before? Etc etc...
Maybe the end game is everyone is dead and the Night King controls Westeros, and humanity is bound to Essos... Until (if ever) the Night King decides to cross the sea...
Doubt that, but who knows.
Unfortunately, the TV show is ahead of the books.
“this isn’t the final battle to save Humanity... I would expect the final battle to be later, and closer to the heart of the continent”
Some speculate the God’s Eye, as the center of the weirwood network. It is in Howland Reed’s neck of the woods.
If Game of Thrones is based on the Norse myth of Ragnarok (there are very strong paralels), then most of humanity is killed off, down to almost just and Adam and Eve like set of survivors - Lif and Lifthrasir. But the story might just be about the ruling houses (the Gods), rather than all humanity, and Lif and Lifthrasir (literally Life and the Lover of Life) might be more figurative representations of humanity generally.
Most of the characters in GoT would represent the Gods in Ragnarok, if the theory is true. Although most die, many live - most of the Goddesses survive.
Ragnarok (Fate of the Gods, Twilight of the Gods) occurs within a cyclic pattern of periodic destruction and rebirth. You have the arrival of a long winter (Fimbulwinter) just before Ragnarok, you have the world tree (Yggdrasil) which magically connects the nine worlds (like a weirwood network), you have shapeshifters like Loki (wargs), you have great wolves Fenir and Garmir (Starks) and a mighty serpent Jormungandr (Dragons/Targaryeans) that sails in from the East.
There is an army from the land of the Giants (Wildlings) that sails from there to join forces. There is an army of dead warriors (from Valhalla), unleashed for the battle. There is even a dwarf (Fafnir) who kills his super rich father.
Long before the battle, the God Tyr (Jamie Lannister) a great champion of single combat “binds” (paralyzes?) a great wolf (Stark) Fenir, but loses his right sword hand. When Ragnarok is about occur Fenir breaks free.
A famous horn, Gjallarhorn (maybe the one Samwell Tarley, from Hornhill, has from the Fist of the First men - the Horn of Winter) is sounded by the watcher Heimdallr (who is associated with the wise beings, the Mimir (Maesters)), to announce the start of the battle. It awakens the Gods to join the battle.
“I would expect some more back story on the Night King and his motivations.”
That seems to be the focus of the Spinoff prequel series that HBO already has in production - it is set 6,000 to 8,000 years earlier, tentatively called “the Long Night”.
So they have to maintain some mystery, purely for business reasons.
I’m remembering how Stannis couldn’t move his troops cause of the blizzard and that the north was gonna be impassible with snow.
I guess sacrificing his daughter really took the bite out of winter eh?
Some good character stuff but it was basically another episode of setup. That’s 2 out of the 6! I gotta question the producers on this.
Also, Gilly must be eating the same portions as Sam!
Or else the actress is pregnant IRL.
“Gilly must be eating the same portions as Sam!
Or else the actress is pregnant”
At the same time, Sam has been losing weight. He seems to be down a good 30 pounds.
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