Posted on 05/20/2019 1:24:03 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
Bjorn Fehrm, a Swedish pilot and aerospace engineer who is an analyst for Bainbridge Island-based Leeham.net, said the report assumes the accidents could have been avoided by “a really proficient pilot … on a good day.” But he said Boeing and Airbus cannot rely on the roughly 300,000 pilots flying worldwide having a good day and being perfectly trained for every emergency.
The veteran U.S. airline captain said that the American aviation community needs to avoid getting “too cocky about U.S. pilots being immune from mistakes.”
He said he’s spent a lot of time flying with local pilots in western China where the mountains are high and the flying is hazardous. I’d put them up against American airline pilots any day,” he said. “They are exceptional airmen.” And he criticized Boeing for designing an airplane in which a system triggered by a single sensor failure would present such challenges and require such a high-performance response from the pilots.
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The flight crew on the March 10 Ethiopian flight faced a barrage of alerts in the flight that lasted just 6 minutes. Those alerts included a “stick shaker” that noisily vibrated the pilot’s yoke throughout the flight, warning the plane was in danger of a stall, which it wasn’t; repeated loud “DON’T SINK” warnings that the jet was too close to the ground; a “clacker” making a very loud clicking sound to signal the jet was going too fast; and multiple warning lights telling the crew the speed, altitude and other readings on their instruments were unreliable.
The Lion Air crash in October would have been at the forefront of the Ethiopian pilots’ minds, and they seem to have focused solely on following the Boeing procedure to eliminate the MAX’s new flight-control system — called Maneuvering Characteristics Augmentation System (MCAS) — that was pushing the nose down. They did so by flipping two cut-off switches. But then the heavy forces on the jet’s tail prevented them from moving the manual wheel in the cockpit that would have corrected the nose-down attitude.
“What would the best pilot do on their worst day with all of this sensory overload?” the veteran U.S. airline captain said. “Who knows what any of us would have done?” “The manufacturer isn’t supposed to give us airplanes that depend on superhuman pilots,” he added. “We should have airplanes that don’t fail the way these airplanes failed.”
Shedlock is a bit of a crank of a financial advisor whose clients have missed out on the decade-long stock market boom since 2008. Everyone has a particular bias in terms of the information he chooses to process. Shedlock chose only the bits that were irrelevant to making money in the financial markets.
The problem with sensors is not just a recent Boeing problem. Airbus had a lot of issues with freezing pitot tubes causing wrong information to be fed to the fly by wire computers, which may have been responsible for several A320 crashes and one A330 crash.
The two crashes were not pilot error. Why would a 737 pilot have expected a 737-800 to have such a problem?
Sorry, but this debacle is the sum of a cascade of errors on the part of Boeing.
Murphy is alive and well and is a vicious son-of-a-b****h. One is none, two is one, etc.
That may well be true!
“There, I fixed it.”
Infantile wrong.
riiiiiiiight. that’s why they only happened in third world countries with sh*tty maintenance and training programs.
lots of eurotrashy airbus stockholders in this thread.
I don’t have any stock in Airbus.
But guess who did her first solo on Saturday and landed safely, too?
Congrats! Well done!
And yet, many pilots would have landed the plane safely. So what is it when some pilots can handle the situation, and some pilots cannot? Pilot error? Pilot ignorance?
Boeing’s mistake is not having an idiot proof airplane.
All those highly skilled pilots are going to suffer from this attack on Boeing, because the attack is going to hasten the introduction of automation and idiot proofing. Low skill piloted airplanes and no pilot airplanes will be coming.
I think it amounts to how forgiving the situation is to error.
Landing isn't the problem, take-off is. The problem is when the plane thinks it is stalling because the angle of attack is high during take-off. The computer tries to nudge the nose down, but there isn't a lot of room for error when the pilot is just taking off.
It would be different if this happened at cruising altitude where the pilot has miles of altitude to correct the problem.
-PJ
The lie of the day: Skilled pilots could have prevented the two 737 Max crashes.
Truth: Properly trained, proficient pilots would have prevented the two 737 MAX crashes.
Training should have included:
A technical description of MCAS, which should have been included in the flight manual...it was not.
A level D simulator sortie which included MCAS normal operation...what happens if the pilot flies the aircraft into a stall. The simulator sortie should also include MCAS failures and emergency procedures.
737 MAX differences training consisted of 2 hours of Computer Based Training (CBT). It is my understanding that the 2 hours of CBT had no reference to MCAS.
Boeing apparently performed no Failure Modes & Impacts Criticality Analysis (FMICA). If they had, they would have altered the MCAS design and changed the differences training to include level D simulators.
And yet, many pilots would have landed the plane safely. So what is it when some pilots can handle the situation, and some pilots cannot? Pilot error? Pilot ignorance?
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Lion Air is known for its pay to fly program. Inexperienced pilots pay the airline to fly their 737s.
How nice!
It sounds silly but way back when I flew my first few hours I would get behind the wheel of the car and have the urge to pull back on the wheel and lift off...lol
I want a pilot who can handle all the automation and also have a good chance coming in by the seat-of-the-pants!
I like the look of modern glass cockpit instruments but also like to see a few old instruments stuck alongside as well.....
Thank you!
“It sounds silly but way back when I flew my first few hours I would get behind the wheel of the car and have the urge to pull back on the wheel and lift off”
I can totally understand that!!! (-:
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