Posted on 05/28/2019 7:48:49 AM PDT by Moonman62
General Motors, America's largest automaker, and Bechtel, the country's largest construction company, are teaming up to build thousands of electric vehicle fast-charging stations across the United States. The two companies have agreed to create a new company that will build the charger network. Adding more fast charging stations should provide a boost to sales of electric cars. One of the biggest concerns Americans have about electric cars is whether there will be enough places to charge them, according to a recent survey by AAA.
This network will not only help GM (GM), which plans to introduce 20 new electric vehicle models by 2023. But the new chargers could also be used by other manufacturers' electric vehicles, too.
GM will provide the data and expertise needed to place chargers in the locations where they can best be used, the two companies said. Bechtel, meanwhile, will provide its own expertise in engineering, building and permitting for the stations.
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The SAE J1772 allows for a common charging port, but doesn't necessarily allow for common fast charging. The CCS port is supposed to allow for fast charging, but if your car isn't equipped for it, the charging station plug won't even fit in your vehicle.
Forever the future, never the present!
Has anyone calculated the impact on the power grid?
Will my AC be going out because too many Teslas are plugged-in at the interstate rest stop?
I’ve read that every automaker who will make EV’s wants to standardize on the J1772 CCS plug, which allows DC charging up to 350 kW (but it’s likely the DC charging rate will be more like 120-150 kW maximum). Indeed, most of the charging networks now going up in the USA have pretty much standardized on J1772 CCS, which allows the owner to charge at home with 240 volt/30 amp AC power and DC power at commercial charging stations.
“Electric Vehicles are the future, and always will be.”
Yup. Just like the flying car.
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And will GM and Bechtel be paying for the necessary upgrades to infrastructure to support more of these charging stations? Current transmission lines and transformers will not support unchecked growth like this.
No problem. Magic solar panels will take care of the load.
“Why aren’t the electricity producers sounding the alarm?”
They have been muzzled by their government masters, or as in the case here in NorCal with PG&E, they are more concerned with their pending bankruptcy brought about by the wildfires their transmission lines started last year. And the kicker here is that PG&E’s “proposal” to keep from having a repeat performance is that the “plan” to cut off power in any part of their transmission system that runs through the forest, whenever the wind blows! Glad we have a generator!
“Are there standards yet for fast charging systems?”
One interesting development is that the next National Electrical Code in 2020 will address bi-directional charging of EVs, homes now charge EVs but soon homes will be charged from EVs in emergency situations.
“It can grow all it wants, until you can recharge in 10 minutes or less and drive 300+ miles, and have MILLIONS of charging stations, its nothing but a commuter vehicle niche.”
Well, FWIW, we’ve been driving back and forth between the SF Bay Area and Northern Nevada dealing with a new home we’ve bought in Nevada, and we see any number of Teslas on the road with us. They can now go 300 miles and the trip is just under 200. That’s not a “commute!” The real issue is where are they going to get the “juice” to charge them.
The RATs love Unicorns! They’re counting on Unicorn Farts to save the day!
There’s no doubt about it. Our electric grid is overloaded as it is. You can’t take the energy that’s supplied to autos through the gasoline distribution system and instead impose it on the electricity transmission and distribution system.
The sad irony is those who want EVs are ALSO trying to get rid of sources of electricity.
Where is the added electric load generation coming from and how is our already shaky transmission system going to handle it?
And tesla will be forced to comply or compete. In the ensuing melee a victor will emerge and beta max will die again but a lot of capital will be burned up in the meantime and investors will become losers and winners... again.
Tesla provides a J-1772 adapter with every car. It fits between the Tesla input plug on the car and the (e.g.) ChargePoint charger device.
Where is the added electric load generation coming from and how is our already shaky transmission system going to handle it?
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Why aren’t the power companies sounding the alarm?
Thanks.
We live north of Gay Frisco and never see an Al Gore electric car being charged.
Ironically as our population ages and needs more handicapped parking places, we see these charging stations popping and no additional handicapped parking.
And will GM and Bechtel be paying for the necessary upgrades to infrastructure to support more of these charging stations? Current transmission lines and transformers will not support unchecked growth like this.
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The power companies say they can handle it.
If they are saying otherwise, please let us know.
“How long does it take to charge one vs how long does it take to fill up with fuel?”
That is an excellent question. My wife’s 15 year old but in great shape Lexus is our main vehicle.
I have a Ridgeline to haul stuff, pick up stuff and go to Home Depot for more new plants. So it gets filled up less often.
With the tank near empty, I can fill it up in less than 5 minutes.
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