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Stephen Hawking was right: 'Black hole' created in a lab confirms the late physicist's [tr]
UK Daily Mail ^ | May 29, 2019 | James Pero

Posted on 05/30/2019 3:59:10 AM PDT by C19fan

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To: SunkenCiv

There is an excellent new episode of science channel’s Spaces Deepest Secrets called “Is The Universe A Hologram” that features Susskind. Season5 episode 9.

This is freaky stuff. It’s currently available On Demand.


21 posted on 05/30/2019 11:43:53 AM PDT by Vaquero ( Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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Let's dredge up some things from deep in the FRchives. The rest of the "Hawking Radiation" keyword:

22 posted on 05/30/2019 11:51:24 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: ro_dreaming

I probably wasn’t clear. Matter isn’t destroyed, in the sense that it just disappears, but it is converted into energy. In this case, radiation.

In classical physics, matter is always conserved, and energy is always conserved. Einstein postulated that matter could be converted to energy and vice versa, so it becomes the conservation of matter/energy.


23 posted on 05/30/2019 11:51:30 AM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: Vaquero
I watched, hmm, a TED talk by Susskind, was surprised how funny he was. And I enjoyed the whole thing, usually TED talks make me reach for the remote, exit them, and then go throw up. :^)

24 posted on 05/30/2019 11:54:19 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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http://www.google.com/search?q=leonard+susskind+richard+feynman+site:youtube.com


25 posted on 05/30/2019 12:46:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: kosciusko51

Right - but Hawking said that as matter goes into a black hole it is destroyed.

Thus, he was wrong.


26 posted on 05/30/2019 1:35:26 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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To: ro_dreaming
Hawking said that information was destroyed, not matter. And he agreed that he was wrong. From Black hole information paradox

Starting in the mid-1970s, Stephen Hawking and Jacob Bekenstein put forward theoretical arguments based on general relativity and quantum field theory that not only appeared to be inconsistent with information conservation but which did not account for the information loss and which stated no reason for it. Specifically, Hawking's From calculations[4] indicated that black hole evaporation via Hawking radiation does not preserve information. Today, many physicists believe that the holographic principle (specifically the AdS/CFT duality) demonstrates that Hawking's conclusion was incorrect, and that information is in fact preserved.[5] In 2004 Hawking himself conceded a bet he had made, agreeing that black hole evaporation does in fact preserve information.

However, the article is talking about Hawking radiation, which is a different aspect of the black hole issue. From Hawking radiation

Hawking radiation is black-body radiation that is predicted to be released by black holes, due to quantum effects near the event horizon. It is named after the physicist Stephen Hawking, who provided a theoretical argument for its existence in 1974.[1]

Hawking radiation reduces the mass and energy of black holes and is therefore also known as black hole evaporation. Because of this, black holes that do not gain mass through other means are expected to shrink and ultimately vanish. Micro black holes are predicted to be larger emitters of radiation than larger black holes and should shrink and dissipate faster.[2]

I hope that helps.

27 posted on 05/30/2019 1:45:02 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: ro_dreaming

I think part of the problem is that the Daily Mail screwed up the meaning of the paradox.


28 posted on 05/30/2019 1:49:27 PM PDT by kosciusko51
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To: kosciusko51

Information is destroyed every day by the MSM. So, in that, he’s 100% correct.

Matter is never destroyed - it will change forms, but never destroyed.


29 posted on 05/30/2019 2:23:58 PM PDT by ro_dreaming (Chesterton, 'Christianity has not been tried and found wanting. It's been found hard and not tried')
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To: Gen.Blather

And IF the LHX does create a black hole in that massive magnetic field, what happens to the radiation in need of exiting it so that it disappears without growing?


30 posted on 05/30/2019 6:32:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: Gen.Blather
...As for Hawking Radiation, the recent experiment provides the strongest evidence for its existence ever documented, but still falls short of absolute proof as no one has ever been able to observe the phenomenon in an actual black hole.

As I suspected this experiment did not create an actual black hole. It created something that mimics it in a way that suggests what a Black Hole would do.

The amount of energy it would take to create a mini black hole is way beyond the ability of any of our current devices to produce. This is a good thing because as the hole shrinks the rate it dissipates its energy increases and it essentially explodes at the end.

31 posted on 03/20/2022 5:32:01 PM PDT by Nateman (Xi Jinping is the most diabolical enemy America has ever had. 🍊)
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To: C19fan
Creating a black hole in a lab, what could possibly go wrong?


32 posted on 03/20/2022 5:41:27 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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