$6.000 for a computer is REALLY HIGH!!!
Not for a workstation grade computer. They are different animals than consumer grade machines. Configure a Dell similar to the Apple, although you wont have as many slots or as much power, nor the same custom Xeon processor Intel is providing Apple, and the price is about $8500.
Many workstation class machines price out at $50,000, where a fully loaded Mac Pro with more power than any of those, with the 28 core XEON, quad GPU, turning out 56 Teraflops, will likely be around $30,000. That’s supercomputer level performance that not so long ago cost multi millions of dollars to achieve. This is, right now, the only desk top level machine capable of streaming three different 8K video stream simultaneously, . . And adding FX in real time.
People are knocking Apple’s $4,995 price of their new 32” 6k monitor as well, but ignoring that it has better specs and more features, with a larger screen and more resolution, than the nearest competitor in reference grade monitors in its class, a 27” 5k Sony CRT monitor that retails for over $43,000. The Mac Pro can drive EIGHT of those 6K monitors WITH INDEPENDENT PROGRAMS SIMULTANROUSLY!
“$6.000 for a computer is REALLY HIGH!!!”
For what they are, the Mac Pros have actually always been a great value. And they even run a real operating system... ;-)
For comparison, here’s a Dell workstation (note: not “desktop computer”):
https://www.dell.com/en-us/work/shop/cty/pdp/spd/precision-7920-workstation/xctopt7920us_4
That was as close as I could get to the entry-level new Mac Pro. It has older Xeons, a lesser graphics card, no Thunderbolt, no macOS, and mediocre design and engineering by comparison.
As configured, it comes in at $6229.
It’s pretty wild that macOS is essentially the last commercial Unix variant left standing...especially considering how late Apple was to the Unix game. I was in the process of giving up on Apple as a serious computer company, but this is an interesting development.
I’ll be getting one to evaluate.
Fully loaded you’re looking at $50K+
I had an original IBM PC. Price for bottom end was $6000.
Today you get a bleeding edge Mac Pro for same price.
Especially since that’s the base model price.
I just built last month for $2,000 a computer with an i9 that has 16 cores at 5.1Ghz, with 64GB of 2666mhz RAM, 1TB Nvme drive, a 1TB SSD, with an Nvidia RTX 2070 graphics processor. It’s married to a 4k 32” monitor.
“$6,000: is REALLY HIGH”
Did you see those specs? That is not a high price for what you get. That’s like saying a $250,000 3D printer that can print titanium aircraft landing gear parts equivalent to a forging process is priced too high. You obviously do not need such a 3D printer, but, for those who do, it’s a bargain.
Or it’s like saying that the price of the Bugatti La Voiture Noire is too high at $19 million. You don’t use La Voiture Noire to pick up a quart of milk at Safeway.
* 56 teraflops
* driving six 6K 32 inch reference quality monitors simultaneously
* rendering photorealistic video in real-time while applying special effects on the fly
* Intel XEON processor with up to 28 cores and up to 1.5 terabytes of ECC RAM
The original Cray 2 supercomputer had four processors that didn’t have multiple cores. It ran at 0.0019 teraflops, cost $32 million, and required 150–200 kW of electric power generated by two motor-generators operating on 3-phase 480 V AC power.
Last year the U.S. regained the fastest super computer record from China at 200 petaflops with 37,000 processors. It requires 4,000 gpm of cooling water.
That is about 3,600 times more powerful than the new Apple. It cost more than $200 MILLION.
It’s all about price/performance, not just price, and what you need to do.
This is not your run of the mill Mac. This is what they use to edit videos and do massive graphics development.
Chances are...you will NEVER have a reason to have such a monster graphics machine.
It’s not that high for the kind of work it’s designed to do... namely professional video editing or animation. For a movie studio this thing is a beast and a bargain (even fully loaded which will probably price out at more than $30,000) however, the rest of us, it’s complete overkill. In a movie studio environment this computer would pay for itself in no time.
I’m a large format photographer, I spend copious time editing (mostly removing dust specs) image files that scan in at 2 to 4 gigabytes for a single image, I currently work on an older Mac Pro, and I definitely don’t need this much computing power, although that monitor seems like it would be awful nice to have.
I have a mac that is 10 years old runs like a charm. I upgraded the OS one time and added memory. That’s it. It will probably last 10 more years. The quality is UFB.