I miss the day when people with brains and class had interview/discussion shows: William Buckley, David Susskind, Tom Snyder. There were even some excellent locally-produced programs on radio as well as TV 40-50 years ago when I was growing up in St. Louis.
Heck, the Mickey Mouse Club had more sophisticated and thoughful shows than today’s fare! This is NOT sarcasm.
Saturday Night Live "Point--Counterpoint"