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Two Conservative Ideas for Fixing Student Loans
National Review ^ | 07/23/2019 | Robert Verbruggen

Posted on 07/23/2019 10:03:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

The Democrats are in the middle of a presidential primary and the Republicans are not, so lefty ideas about how to fix student debt — i.e., throwing taxpayer money at borrowers — have gotten a lot of media coverage. Less noted have been numerous better ideas emanating from the right.

As I argued at length in a print piece earlier this month, while the “crisis” here is overblown and massive new taxpayer handouts wholly unjustified, the system does need reform. Specifically, we need to do two things: (1) provide worthy students a way to fund their education without crippling their finances, but also without dumping their costs on everyone else; and (2) give colleges incentives to control their costs and stop admitting students who won’t benefit, and who might well drop out and/or end up defaulting on their loans.

Two recent papers from the Manhattan Institute nicely illustrate conservative ways of approaching these issues. And each touts an idea with some support in Congress.

The first, written by Jason Delisle and released today, makes the case for “income-share agreements.” Under these arrangements, a lender pays for a student’s education, and in return the student pays a set percentage of his income for a set number of years. This way, students pay for their education during the years when they’re benefiting from it the most — the years when their earnings are high — and are protected against big bills when they’re struggling.

Delisle’s proposal is to take this as a model for the entire student-loan program. The rule is simple: You can borrow up to $50,000, and for every $10,000 you borrow, you owe 1 percent of your earnings for the next 25 years (unless you first hit the repayment cap of 1.75 times the amount of the loan). If you get married, you pay for your ISA based on half the household income. If you make less than $12,000 or receive the earned-income tax credit, your payments are reduced or eliminated.

Everyone is entitled to nearly twice as much money as the typical four-year student borrows today, and no one ever loses more than 5 percent of his income repaying it. Further, collections are handled through the existing income-tax system, streamlining the process.

I might be inclined to expand students’ options beyond what Delisle offers. Students should be able to pick higher payments in exchange for shorter loans so they’re not still paying in their 40s, and to reduce their obligations by making extra payments. But the proposal is elegant and simple, showing how workable ISAs could be if we could build up political support for them. One bill in Congress would start the process of doing this by cleaning up some of the legal technicalities surrounding them, while another would give students a new option that’s fairly similar to an ISA, but we need some far more aggressive ideas like Delisle’s.

ISAs put the focus on how students pay, rather than putting colleges on the hook for helping students run up debts they can’t pay off. For that we can turn to another recent Manhattan Institute paper, by Beth Akers.

Akers promotes the concept of a “money-back guarantee.” It turns out that more than 100 colleges already have arrangements in which students get help paying off their loans if they end up not making very much money. In other words, these colleges voluntarily shoulder some of the risk that a student’s degree won’t pay off.

In this case it’s Congress that has the most aggressive proposal. Senator Josh Hawley has introduced a bill requiring colleges to pay off half the loans of students who default. This is a good idea, though, as I noted last week, the bill includes an odd provision trying to stop colleges from raising prices to cover this new liability, which is both practically challenging and economically questionable. (If a college hikes tuition so it can shoulder this new liability without changing anything else, it effectively “prices in” half the risk of default for its students, which is not the worst thing in the world. Ideally most colleges should cut costs instead, but it’s folly to try to mandate this across the board.)

ISAs and money-back guarantees are two different options, but they both aim to make college affordable without spending lots of taxpayer money on a disproportionately wealthy chunk of the population. Indeed, it would be possible to combine them: Loans could be provided through ISAs, and schools could be required to pitch in when their students aren’t paying those loans back.

That makes a lot more sense than taking hundreds of billions of taxpayer dollars and handing them over to some of the country’s most fortunate individuals.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Education; Society
KEYWORDS: college; debt; studentloans
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1 posted on 07/23/2019 10:03:57 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

No thanks. Feds shouldn’t be involved in student loans at all


2 posted on 07/23/2019 10:07:14 AM PDT by Nifster (I see puppy dogs in the clouds)
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To: SeekAndFind
Nope. The best and most conservative way to fix the high tuition problem and student loan problem (which make each other worse) is:

1) Don't help people with the dumb decisions they made in the past, including running up a bunch of student loan debt that apparently either didn't help them get a high enough income to pay it off, or didn't teach them the financial responsibility required to pay it off. Helping people after they make bad decisions like that only encourages future bad decisions and prevents them from learning life lessons to mature.

2) Get the federal government out of the college/university business. If different states want to do it, that's between the states and their constituents. But the federal government's massive money infusion into higher education is what has made tuition balloon like it has. The two things government "helps" us with most are college and healthcare -- which by no coincidence are the two things with the highest inflation rates.

End result: the only people in the future who go to college will be people who'll either pay for it out of pocket or have a creditor who's not as forgiving as the government, certainly not one that allows such low pre-payments during the early years. That'll make sure that the only people who go to college are the ones who'll actually get their money's worth out of it, in part by bring college tuition and books down. (If tuition doesn't actually go down, it'll at least quit going up for a while until normal inflation catches up.)

3 posted on 07/23/2019 10:10:59 AM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Limit the number of degrees in any field to a government estimate of the number of jobs that will require said degree. In other words, if the projection is that America will only have a need for another 1000 basket weavers next year, the limit would be maybe 1200 basket weaving degrees nationwide could be issued, and the universities would have to vie to get some of that allocation. If a degree does not have any viable career path, then the allocation would be zero, and the university would have to drop the program. Make the Dept of Education actually do something and run the analysis of the need by degree and run the lottery for the universities.


4 posted on 07/23/2019 10:13:27 AM PDT by RainMan (rainman)
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To: SeekAndFind
How about we get rid of these worthless degrees; Women Studies, Latino Studies, etc. Or at least make them ineligible for student loans. We should only make viable degrees eligible for student loans like engineering, computer science, accounting, etc.

We do that with crop subsidies. You want a subsidy you have to grow what the government/business wants/needs.

You want a worthless degree pay for it yourself and then go work at Walmart.

5 posted on 07/23/2019 10:15:23 AM PDT by martinidon
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To: Nifster
No thanks. Feds shouldn’t be involved in student loans at all

That ship sailed LOOOOOOOONG ago.

And the cost of doing nothing is extremely high. Someone needs to diffuse this ticking bomb, or we're going to be overrun by a stampede of Millenials racing to the polls to vote themselves out of debt.


6 posted on 07/23/2019 10:16:32 AM PDT by Buckeye McFrog (Patrick Henry would have been an anti-vaxxer.)
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To: SeekAndFind

No more loans for Liberal Arts majors.


7 posted on 07/23/2019 10:17:56 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire. Or both.)
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To: SeekAndFind

The problem demonstrates overspending in the education department.

Slash gov subsidies and only provide loans for paying degrees.


8 posted on 07/23/2019 10:18:45 AM PDT by fruser1
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To: SeekAndFind

how about don’t borrow what straps you too far down to make the investment worth it..

old timey translation..live in our means..


9 posted on 07/23/2019 10:20:09 AM PDT by aces (and)
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To: Nifster

Too simple no room for graft


10 posted on 07/23/2019 10:21:13 AM PDT by genghis
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To: SeekAndFind

Restore debtor’s prison for student loan defaults.


11 posted on 07/23/2019 10:21:36 AM PDT by Joe Bfstplk (No real problem has a solution.)
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To: RainMan

“to a government estimate”

I’ll bet you that will be accurate.


12 posted on 07/23/2019 10:22:33 AM PDT by FewsOrange
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To: SeekAndFind

What is wrong with allowing self study? If I can demonstrate competency through whatever tests I must pass, it shouldn’t matter how I acquired the information.


13 posted on 07/23/2019 10:23:04 AM PDT by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death by cultsther)
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To: SeekAndFind
This sounds too much like Obamas plan ... pay a % of your salary for 10 years then the balance is forgiven. That discriminates against engineers who make $70k coming out of school vs. $20k working as a bank teller with a degree in transgender studies. The engineer pays his full loan back and the trans study person is forgiven 80% of their loan.

1. Stop lending money to people who are pursuing degrees in useless liberal ideological disciplines (yes, I shouldn't use the word discipline in that context). They can never pay $200k back working as a bank teller.

2. Only lend money to people pursuing degrees in engineering, etc. who have the potential to pay it back.

14 posted on 07/23/2019 10:24:46 AM PDT by dartuser
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To: Jonty30

RE: What is wrong with allowing self study? If I can demonstrate competency through whatever tests I must pass, it shouldn’t matter how I acquired the information.

That is what Arizona State Univerity’s Online Degree Programs are doing:

https://go.asuonline.asu.edu/lpppc-brand-sl3/?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=BRAND-S-ASU-NAT&utm_term=arizona%20state%20university%20online&utm_content=sitelink&st-t=adwords&vt-k=arizona%20state%20university%20online&vt-mt=e&utm_initiative=GoogleBrand&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIiL_S2sfL4wIVTuDICh1WwAvnEAAYASABEgIwyvD_BwE


15 posted on 07/23/2019 10:26:09 AM PDT by SeekAndFind (look at Michigan, it will)
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To: Tell It Right; Nifster
End result: the only people in the future who go to college will be people who'll either pay for it out of pocket or have a creditor who's not as forgiving as the government,

There are parts of your proposal that I can agree with, but the basic issue is the concept that all college degrees are equally 'valid' - whether as a path to success or as recipients of federal loan guarantees/grants/etc.

I think there is a social/economic value to some degrees (and therefore a justification for subsidy whether by state of federal), but others are money down a rathole no matter how they are paid for.

My proposal would be to tell colleges and universities that the maximum number of students allowed to enter a degree program is 1.5x the number of job offers the previous graduating class received. This includes only professional job offers in a related field. So, a degree in Physics that gets job offers in an engineering field is fine, but a degree in basket weaving that gets job offers of the 'Do you want fries with that?' variety does not.

If they were not allowed to let students into the basket-weaving program (or at least not many), then the associated professors/classrooms/administrators would be shown to be useless and would either be reduced (along with associated costs - thereby reducing overall tuition costs) or the college would quickly go bankrupt.

On the other hand, if they allow and even subsidize (to a limited extent) students in the so-called "STEM" programs, then we'd have qualified people to work in our economy. Ultimately, the economic value they generate would more than repay the cost of their (limited) subsidy.

Conversely, having graduates with useless degrees get their knees broken (or whatever your not-forgiving creditors do) doesn't add any value to society.

Students with rich parents who want to pay for basket-weaving degrees can do so, but only in totally private, totally not taxpayer subsidized colleges.
16 posted on 07/23/2019 10:27:11 AM PDT by Phlyer
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To: SeekAndFind

One idea that I’ve found interesting regarding this is after a person has worked for an employer for a set amount of time (perhaps a year), the employer can make loan payments for the employee. The employer can write off the sum for tax purposes and the employee doesn’t have to count the payment as income.

It would be voluntary on the employers behalf. If he or she is looking to keep a valued employee, this could be a hook to do so. I’m sure this set up has some flaws, but it was the most interesting solution that I’ve run across.


17 posted on 07/23/2019 10:28:38 AM PDT by BelleAl (Proud to be a member of the party of NO! NO more deficit spending and government control!)
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To: Nifster

Absolutely, the feds need get out of the loan guarantee market. When the available funds dry up, the demand for ridicules degrees will vanish. Simple econ 101, less demand, supply stays same, prices drop. I would not lose a seconds sleep thinking of a bunch of unemployed formerly paid 200K professors out of lauding about positions.


18 posted on 07/23/2019 10:30:00 AM PDT by Mouton (The media is the enemy of the people.)
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To: Nifster
Any federal involvement will turn into mission creep and get us back to exactly the mess we have now (or worse).

Any partial bailout (which is likely politically inevitable) must be accompanied by a complete divestiture of Fedzilla from the system. Sell the loans to so many different banks and institutions that it will be nearly impossible to collect them back again.

Those which cannot be sold become the responsibility of the college to collect. Most of them have sufficient endowments to liquidate those loans. Those which do not maybe shouldn't be in the college business or the business of passing out unmarketable degrees.

There are at least two plans already in operation which work well:

  1. Bank of North Dakota-- yes, it applies to only institutions of higher learning in the state, but the default rate is near 0% because it severely limits what can be borrowed on fluff degrees and/or students making little or no progress to graduation.
  2. Hillsdale College model-- no federal loans allowed. They have their own group of lenders to compete for your business.

    There is no reason any other college in the country can not emulate one of these proven models or come up with their own.


19 posted on 07/23/2019 10:33:14 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (The politicized state destroys aspects of civil society, human kindness and private charity.)
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To: SeekAndFind

How about one idea ..... get the government out of the business, which is what it has become, and let folks fend for themselves.


20 posted on 07/23/2019 10:34:38 AM PDT by qaz123
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