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Mass shootings *since* Odessa (7 dead; 33 injured; limited news coverage)
Gun Violence Archive ^ | 9/2/2109 | Mr. U

Posted on 09/02/2019 8:09:12 PM PDT by Mr.Unique



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I think we know why we haven't heard about these.

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1 posted on 09/02/2019 8:09:12 PM PDT by Mr.Unique
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Because they aren’t mass shootings?


2 posted on 09/02/2019 8:19:17 PM PDT by mlo
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“Because they aren’t mass shootings?”

Probably more due to concern about ‘stigmatizing’ certain types of people who actually do most of these mass shootings.


3 posted on 09/02/2019 8:33:52 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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Because they aren’t mass shootings?

That would not be the correct answer.

"Mass shootings" as most recently defined by the FBI is an incident with 4 or more victims injured or killed by firearms. All of the incidents in the downloaded file meet this filter.

Yes, the FBI has changed the definition of "Mass shootings" several times. 4 victims is what they are going with at the moment. Pick any threshold you want and try again. There have been more incidents than you would expect.

One thing that stands out in the selected data is that in most of the incidents, the victims and the shooters are Black or Hispanic.

One might quickly develop the theory that most of these incidents get little exposure in the national news media because they do not fit the preferred Liberal narratives.

4 posted on 09/02/2019 8:37:23 PM PDT by flamberge (The wheels keep turning)
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To: mlo

By definition, they are.


5 posted on 09/02/2019 8:39:08 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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To: BobL

Correct.

They fit the definition, but not the agenda.


6 posted on 09/02/2019 8:40:08 PM PDT by Mr.Unique (The government, by its very nature, cannot give except what it first takes.)
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Black-on-black shootings in Chicago. A very good running tally.

As Freeper Yaelle said:

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7 posted on 09/02/2019 9:05:58 PM PDT by Veto! (Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me))
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There are many reasons we won’t hear about them: The victims/shooter aren’t of the “correct” racial or political demographic, the weapon used did not fit an agenda, shootings are a regular occurrence in the area of said mass shooting, or a civilian ended the shooter’s spree, among others I can’t think of at the moment.


8 posted on 09/02/2019 9:18:03 PM PDT by Tacrolimus1mg (Do no harm, but take no sh!t.)
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To: Mr.Unique

If you count shootings involving three or more victims they commit 90% of them...


9 posted on 09/02/2019 9:20:50 PM PDT by northislander
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To: flamberge

Libs screaming to changing it to 1 killed or injured as mass shooting, unless in lib controlled city.


10 posted on 09/02/2019 9:21:17 PM PDT by Mark (Celebrities... is there anything they do not know? -Homer Simpson)
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I'm not much interested in how the FBI defines things. The public has a certain idea about what a "mass shooting" is. It does not include gang drive-bys, or drug deals gone wrong. It's more about shooters out to kill as many strangers as possible.

The first and only instance on the list I looked at was a home invasion robbery. Not quite what most of us think of as a "mass shooting".

When these "mass shooting" stats are brandished they are used to persuade people of the threat to the general public posed by guns. It's important to point out these stats include very different things.

11 posted on 09/02/2019 9:23:40 PM PDT by mlo
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This might be why we haven't heard of some of these


12 posted on 09/02/2019 9:25:23 PM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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I have not seen this defined. If 4 idiots break into my home and I defend the home front with a pump 500 with #4 Buck am I the mass shooter? If they’re dumb enough to do it. It’s a question that will get answered, with extreme prejudice. Just saying.


13 posted on 09/02/2019 9:33:31 PM PDT by Equine1952 (Get yourself a ticket on a common mans train of thought))
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For the most part, the shootings listed lack randomness. They are mostly shootings committed among people who have chosen to participate in the illegal drug trade and turf wars.

The victims in Midland and Odessa had no idea that they placed them selves in a dangerous situation. The victims in El Paso were all innocent, as were the victims in Dayton, Sutherland Springs, Santa Fe, Sandy Hook, Stoneman Douglas, etc. etc.

It is the randomness and the innocence of the victims that draws our attention, thus making these events more tragic.


14 posted on 09/02/2019 9:44:42 PM PDT by Meatspace
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To: Mr.Unique

They shouldn’t be happening anywhere. Our society is sick.


15 posted on 09/02/2019 10:04:44 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: generally

Are these photos of US-based shooters?


16 posted on 09/02/2019 10:06:02 PM PDT by Does so (To continue in English, press 2...)
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To: Does so

AFAIK they are. Sorry I don’t have the source.


17 posted on 09/02/2019 10:29:54 PM PDT by generally ( Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: Meatspace

The current database is only telling a limited story. It might be helpful if the shooter was identified as (1) drug user, (2) paranoid schizophrenic, (3) gang member, (4) criminal record ‘player’, or (5) under treatment for mental issues (like PTSD or bi-polar, or even suicidal).

The one interesting characteristic I can see from the past decade....once you have a mass shooting, it’s a 99-percent chance that it’s a male, and not a female.


18 posted on 09/02/2019 11:27:54 PM PDT by pepsionice
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Bump


19 posted on 09/03/2019 1:09:55 AM PDT by foreverfree
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To: flamberge

There is a picture montage of every mass shooter in recent history. Most have something in common and it ain’t that they are white.


20 posted on 09/03/2019 1:54:33 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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