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Wind Energy’s Dirty (Not So Little) Secret
Hotair ^ | 09/11/2019 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 09/11/2019 12:34:07 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

“The tour came as additional details have come to light regarding another advanced fusion reactor program at Lockheed Martin, which recently obtained a patent for portions of its own design.”

Fusion reactors will blow all these other power generation sources away.


41 posted on 09/11/2019 2:26:34 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: Louis Foxwell

Ah, so you’re only concerned about certain kinds of birds.


42 posted on 09/11/2019 2:52:01 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: SeekAndFind

Giant UGLY turbine blades. These things are visual pollution as well as bird Cuisinarts.


43 posted on 09/11/2019 2:57:23 PM PDT by beethovenfan (Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin)
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To: george76
"...wind turbine blades can Not be recycled ."

Balderdash. Anything can be recycled. Wind turbine blades are just big....the component elements are just plastic and glass fiber. The plastic will burn just fine, and the glass fiber residue will landfill easily. Bigbob's post has it right. Fiberglass is fiberglass, whether it is wind turbine blades or boat hulls. Any engineer can design a facility to reduce either to small chips that can then either be burned or recycled.

44 posted on 09/11/2019 3:03:07 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: antidemoncrat
"Fusion reactors will blow all these other power generation sources away."

Maybe in 100 years or so. I've been following fission and fusion plant designs since my nuke engineering classes back in the 1970's. No fusion designs have been anything other than full employment programs for physicists. Fission stands a good chance, especially molten salt, if we can just get the legal barriers removed.

45 posted on 09/11/2019 3:09:48 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

You are wrong.

Wind turbines kill millions of bats each year...something windows do not do.

Wind turbines kill insects, like bees and may be related to the declining bee populations.

Insects sticking to the blades make them inefficient, requiring cleaning....just like solar panels.

These boondoggles are not commercially viable. Only idiots want to force them on is.


46 posted on 09/11/2019 3:18:12 PM PDT by Erik Latranyi (The Democratic Party is now a hate-group)
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To: Wonder Warthog

A wind farm near Albert Lea, Minn., brought more than 100 wind turbine blades measuring 120 ft long to be dumped in a Sioux Falls, South Dakota, landfill, but there’s a problem: the massive blades are taking up too much room ..

South Dakota is a long way to travel to dispose of wind turbine blades, which uses a lot of diesel fuel, and ..

Is there no engineer in Minnesota who can design a facility to recycled this mess ?


47 posted on 09/11/2019 3:35:27 PM PDT by george76 (Ward Churchill : Fake Indian, Fake Scholarship, and Fake Art)
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To: SeekAndFind
What do we do with the radioactive waste material?

Most of it can and should be recycled and reused. Jimmy Carter (blast his eyes) forbid doing so by executive order; no President since then has had the guts to rescind his order.

48 posted on 09/11/2019 3:40:59 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: antidemoncrat
Fusion reactors will blow all these other power generation sources away.

Practical fusion reactors are about 20 years in the future.

That's what I was told as a physics grad student.

In 1986.

49 posted on 09/11/2019 3:43:57 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: NorthMountain

Could we stand up the old props close together to make a wall on the border?


50 posted on 09/11/2019 3:46:56 PM PDT by oldasrocks (Heavily Medicated for your Protection.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Not to mention that the fiberglass resins used in windmills are extremely nasty chemical in origin.


51 posted on 09/11/2019 3:48:02 PM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and Americans!)
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To: Bubba Ho-Tep

“Glass windows and cats kill hundreds of times more birds than windmills.”

Don’t think so.


52 posted on 09/11/2019 3:50:32 PM PDT by CodeToad ( Hating on Trump is hating on me and Americans!)
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To: NorthMountain

I doubt if China will take that long. They are heavily invested in it since the first country to achieve it will be years ahead of the rest of the world.


53 posted on 09/11/2019 4:05:53 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: NorthMountain

>>Most of it can and should be recycled and reused. Jimmy Carter (blast his eyes) forbid doing so by executive order; no President since then has had the guts to rescind his order.

Reagan rescinded Carter’s order. But the damage had already been done when the industry was forced to switch to containment facilities.


54 posted on 09/11/2019 4:07:26 PM PDT by vikingd00d (chown -R us ~you/base)
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To: Wonder Warthog

“According to the South China Morning Post, China’s Experimental Advanced Superconducting Tokamak (EAST) was able to sustain 90 million Fahrenheit plasma (50 million Kelvin) for 102 seconds. For context, the center of the sun is thought to be only about a third as hot.”


55 posted on 09/11/2019 4:08:48 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: antidemoncrat

Wow.. a whole 120 seconds. The hot physics boys are still barking up a stupid tree. Read up on SAFIRE. FAR more interesting, and likely to succeed that any Tokamak.


56 posted on 09/11/2019 4:46:28 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: george76

What is needed is a central facility specifically designed for this purpose, with easy access to rail transport that can serve multiple states. The disposal of fissionable waste can serve as a good model of how to do it, without the objectionability of radioactivity.


57 posted on 09/11/2019 4:48:44 PM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel and NRA Life Member)
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To: CodeToad
Don’t think so.

Look it up yourself.


58 posted on 09/11/2019 4:49:25 PM PDT by Bubba Ho-Tep ("The rat always knows when he's in with weasels."--Tom Waits)
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To: Oldexpat; SunkenCiv; Kaslin; BenLurkin

Heck, a twenty year life for windmills is very optimistic!

There are no subsidies for maintenance and scrapping: I will be surprised if 12-15 years is ever exceeded. 10-12 most likely.


59 posted on 09/11/2019 6:34:07 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (The democrats' national goal: One world social-communism under one world religion: Atheistic Islam.)
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To: bobrlbob

“Same with solar panels, what happens to those solar farms when they wear out.”

Not a problem - by then they would have ‘served their purpose’ and allowed the Leftists to dismantle our fossil fuel plants by then.

As to the panels themselves, they’ll be put on a barge and sent to Asia, just like virtually everything else smug Americans throw into ‘recycle’ bins. Once in Asia, they’re either burned or dumped in the ground - either way, nice source of income for them.


60 posted on 09/11/2019 9:22:40 PM PDT by BobL (I eat at McDonald's and shop at Walmart - I just don't tell anyone.)
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